Part Time Trucking and Hours of Service?

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  1. Lazer

    Lazer Heavy Load Member

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    Sorry, to clarify, this is the States
     
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  3. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    I think he missed it being in the Canada forum. He's giving US rules.
     
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  4. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    fmcsa rules state all work for a motor carrier.
    nothing else except that the motor carrier is still responsible for safety.
     
  5. aaronpeterbilt3787

    aaronpeterbilt3787 Medium Load Member

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    Compensation has zero legal bearing on duty status.
     
  6. Lazer

    Lazer Heavy Load Member

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    I used ‘compensation’ is place of work/duty status.
     
  7. skipgears

    skipgears Medium Load Member

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    Ultimately, OP needs to disclose any outside contract labor performed to his motor carrier, at which point his safety guy in the office will advise and OP will have to comply with that dictation. However, make sure OP gets that in writing, for any 'potential' issues down the line. Trucking companies can be monkeys too. 'Nuff said.
     
  8. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    Read the last sentence


    On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

    (1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

    (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

    (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;

    (4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:

    (i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in § 397.5 of this subchapter;

    (ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; or

    (iii) Up to 3 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 7 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;

    (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;

    (6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;

    (7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-crash, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapterwhen directed by a motor carrier;

    (8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and

    (9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.
     
  9. aaronpeterbilt3787

    aaronpeterbilt3787 Medium Load Member

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    Yes read it. It’s one thing to read it. It’s another to understand it. If you are being paid to do a job and that employer is NOT a motor carrier, you must record it in your HOS. You do not have to log waiting time/layovers as on duty IF your carrier has relieved you of responsibility.
     
  10. skipgears

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    .. are we still in the Canadian Forum? cause those are Yankee rules.
    Also, out of curiosity, how would you log that on your e-log? Since any labor outside of motor-carrier doesn't pertain to the log.
     
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  11. dibstr

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    Yep, but I thought the op said he was in the US.
     
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