Pay with Less than 1-year Exp

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by BigBadBill, Feb 27, 2014.

  1. Oi!

    Oi! Road Train Member

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    I made 40k in my first year, and I couldn't quit any faster once I had the chance. If you want to keep your drivers you have to focus not only on pay, but also on hometime and downtime. Regular hometime and little downtime while on the road with "above average" pay will get you a below average turnover. Otherwise it will always be a revolving door of people trying to move up the ladder.
     
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  3. milskired

    milskired Road Train Member

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    To me another big was for equipment was not just downtime but what I was driving. You give me something like an old swift truck I probably wont enjoy my job as much as I would if I was driving a nicely spec'd truck. Not saying a hood but something that has more then a few gauges, maybe a 13speed, nice seats and looks good! That makes it easier to stay out for 2-3 weeks at a time! I never had a hard time staying out for 3 weeks at a time when I was OTR. I actually woke up every morning and was excited to get behind the wheel and drive.
     
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  4. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    What is interesting is that while you see all the complaining about pay it never makes the top 3 in terms of reasons that drivers leave a company. Home time is always #1. With driver treatment being the next big one.

    Fortunately, we have a pretty good track record in how we work with drivers. I let our history speak for itself. Home time is mostly dependent on area. Like the driver from Tampa, not going to tell that driver they are going to be home weekly because I couldn't afford that. But our sweet spot I have no issue letting drivers get home weekly.

    Biggest thing that we will tell drivers. We both need to make money to make this work. We are small enough that we don't need policies and can work with drivers on what works for them.

    We are looking at decent spec'd Cascadia's. Not my favorite truck but what I have access to they are the trucks that get the best MPG, lowest maintenance cost and a good ride.

    We have pulled the trigger on this and have 30 trucks to seat. Look for the details in the hiring section.
     
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  5. Oi!

    Oi! Road Train Member

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    That doesnt matter as long as you are paid for breakdowns. I drove for a company that terrible equipment but I got 18 per hour after one hour of breaking down so I didnt care what I was driving.
     
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  6. Northern Lights

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    Best MPG? Not from my experience. My Volvo 780 got 9+ MPG most of the time, and I hauled a lot of 40k+ loads so it wasn't from running light. It was from running responsibly. I knew a ProStar driver that averaged 9.5-10 every week, as well.

    Good ride? Not from my experience. Freightliners have terrible issues with total body vibration. I'm miserable in a Cascadia. The 780 I had was a much better ride not only for mpg and sleeper size, but driver & sleeping comfort.

    I can't say much about the maintenance cost, other than to point out how many Volvo dealerships are popping up all over recently with the brand's growing popularity


    I enjoy living over the road. I take home time 1-2 times per year. As such, the comfort of the truck is more important to me than how much I'm taking home each week because that's my home. The relationship I have with my DM/dispatcher is important to me because that's my connection to humanity, aside from the passing nods given to other drivers & truck stop folks I see once & never again.

    I'd be happy with $750/week(*), as long as the equipment is to my satisfaction and the personal relationships were solid because I live a pretty ascetic life.


    * Hypothetically, because I'm pretty happy with JCT despite the Crapcadia I'm stuck in.
     
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  7. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Bill... Prime is currently starting at 42-cpm plus a variable fuel bonus paid weekly. Fuel bonus starts at 7.5mpg... which is a requirement for company drivers to maintain. It starts at 0.1-cpm and increases in 0.1-cpm increments for ever 0.1mpg maintained for the week over 7.5 mpg. I ran company about 4 to 6 years ago (see milskired's posts) and grossed around 48k in those years on and average of over 2800 miles-per-week. Hope that helps.
     
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  8. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    Try fitzgerald gliders, they're cheaper, classically get more mpg, save more money on maintenance compared to scr equipped trucks.
     
  9. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    The keys words in my post are "what I have access to".

    I'm a huge Volvo fan for general freight but that is not an option. And Volvo still hasn't addressed the weight issue. And I understand the general issue around Freightliner. I have almost a million miles on a couple different Century's. About the only thing I like was the Detroit.

    On the Cascaidias, it is all about how they are set-up. I got in one that was a trade from a different company and said "no". Then I got in one to move it that are the one that I am not getting and it was like a different truck.

    And MPG set-up is part of it but driver behavior is much bigger. When you see companies implement MPG bonuses and the MPG goes up by 2 MPG that is all driver.

    I have 30 trucks getting prepped that have a lifetime average of 8.9 MPG. All of them got set-up for teams but we are running solo.
     
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  10. Northern Lights

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    When I get about 9 mpg average in a 780 and 6.5 in a Cascadia, that is all truck.
     
  11. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Yes, that is all truck. The Cascadia was mis-spec'd or had an issue. Here if we see a Cascaidia below 7.5 it comes to the shop to figure out what the issue is. The new Evo's come in if they are under 8.5.

    If it was just me I would get back in a 780. But don't have access to them in the first place and then I am looking at getting ALL of my maintenance away from the shop. And when you get a $65/hr rate and cost on parts that makes a big difference.

    I do wish they would update the interior of the 780. They still look like my '06 on the inside.
     
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