Paying cash for an older semi tractor vs. financing a new one

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by FloridaDudester, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. Kshaw0960

    Kshaw0960 Road Train Member

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    I’ve purchased a 1999 century with a 12.7 Detroit for $8800 and it has ran flawlessly for 5 years now. Biggest repair was AC at less than $1k for everything to be replaced. Still own it.

    Also purchased a 2003 Columbia with the 12.7 Detroit for $9.5k and it also ran flawlessly for 3 years with about $6k into it the first couple months. Sold it last year.

    Now I’m in a 1996 w900l again with a 12.7 Detroit. This truck was rougher but I wanted paper logs. Sunk $15k or so into it.

    The average maintenance year end cost for the years of owning all the trucks including all repairs and oil changes is approx $8-10k. This also includes trailer so not bad. Just find a good mechanic and know your truck.
     
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  3. stillwurkin

    stillwurkin Road Train Member

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    If you have a secure gig, and no other ways to spend your money..go for it . or if your wife ( or partner to be pc.) makes the bucks? the banker is needing a new car too, and a couple new suits. We are a one income family, always have been. Our choice. Every situation different. I have a friend that buys new every 3 to 4 years. He runs quite hard.
     
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  4. FloridaDudester

    FloridaDudester Light Load Member

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    Wow, that's an eye opener.
     
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  5. FloridaDudester

    FloridaDudester Light Load Member

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    I like the way you put that. I expect I will probably not go with a 10k truck unless I find a really clean pre-emissions model that runs with say 1.3 million miles on it. I will learn to do some of the work, but not in-frame rebuilds and real time involved things. I'm going to maybe look at 18k-30k as a spend point. Dealers make me nervous. most of the sales guys just make up #### for a good story. I'll find a private owner retiring maybe.
     
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  6. FloridaDudester

    FloridaDudester Light Load Member

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    Therein lies the beauty of an older cheap truck... working every other day. It's hard to do with $2500 worth of truck payment and an insurance policy to match it.
     
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  7. FloridaDudester

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    This is what I like to hear. It's encouraging. do those 12.7 Detroit motors have enough torque to pull a 48k load on a flatbed?
     
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  8. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    There is nothing like not going to work because you dont feel like it and can afford to take the week off. Even better is the point when you take a week off and actually look forward to going back to work again.
     
  9. FloridaDudester

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    I like all the replies. I've always (since I've been able to afford it) been a cash buyer, as financing stuff just lowers overall buying power. I get that nobody thinks that way. It's always a sacrifice in the beginning while saving for that purchase, as opposed to buying the bankers wife a new fur coat, as my grandfather who was a chevrolet company driver, used to say.

    Being that married to a truck just doesn't appeal for my mental health. I will pay cash for my insurance as its under 13600.00 for the year if I pay it all up front with progressive. It's about $2,000 more over the year to break it up. That's seriously high interest rate!
     
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  10. FloridaDudester

    FloridaDudester Light Load Member

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    That's absolutely right in my book. My dad retired at 55. I'm 55 now, but really can't retire at a level I"m happy with,
    Amen to that. Working because I want to is sort of where I'm at now. I mean that I have to keep my business going, but show up to occupy my mind much of the time. The trucking gig will add a dimension and force me to do a little more. I'm excited to get into it.
     
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  11. Dino soar

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    Absolutely. Some of them are rated at 500 horsepower and you could do a tune on them also. I ran plenty of them pulling 80,000 lb.

    The 12.7 is really one of the most Dependable economical engines, even not expensive to rebuild. Right next to that would be the electronic n14, although I understand they had some electrical problems with injectors and and I think the wiring for the injectors. Any Caterpillar engine it's safe to say is crazy expensive to rebuild, especially with genuine parts. I never saw the benefit in that extreme cost of rebuilding.

    I myself prefer a mechanical engine, but that 12.7 Detroit and the n14 are about the simplest and best of the electronic bunch. But the absolute cheapest to rebuild or buy new or have someone rebuild is the big cam.

    In case you don't know it, the big cam is the same engine and block as the electronic n14. There are a few minor internal differences, but the n14 is basically an electronic big cam. And some of the earlier n14s were mechanical (early 90's). I understand they were really great engines those mechanical n14s.
     
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