Per Diem CPM tax implications and other questions.

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  1. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    If you're not in the road the point of per diem is to help with the higher cost of everything. So if you're home it's cheaper anyway.
     
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    If that's true. Per diem will need to go from $72 to $172 this year.
     
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    What is M&IE Per Diem?
    It's the whole point of per diem.
     
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    Yes. But first in general, the average rate of return in 2019 was 9.5 %. Now 5 to 8%. This doesn't include fees. That pace doesn't keep up with cola or inflation.
    Specific. I had a 401k at a former employer that was up to $126k. Losses took it to 72k. Ex mother in law had 100k that became 52k. That was with USPS a Merril Lynch account. That was a long term fund. My daughter started one in 2016 and it is worth less than she has put in. I tell her it's a long term thing let it grow. But she has trouble wrapping her brain around that lol.
    Look it's just my opinion, but I think you can do better with a wet turd farm than a lot of 401k.

    Now if there are solid employer contributions that changes the game.
     
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    Doesn't include fees. How much are fees?

    I know people that are putting in their papers and getting upwards of $3K a month from SS.

    That's forever until they die. And it will go up.

    So that's $36K a year tax free. 5 years $180K.

    You're account that is better as you stated earlier that has $126K in it, that will continue to pay $3K a month forever? Yes?
     
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    There are some states that actually tax Social Security payments. Also, the IRS can still hit you if you have income other than the SS payments. Individuals with a combined income between $25,000 and $34,000 are taxed on 50% of their Social Security benefit. Married couples face tax on 50% of their Social Security benefit if their combined income is between $32,000 and $44,000. Over that it can go as high as 85%.
     
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    I figured it was all free cause dad never paid a dime.
     
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    When I got the mortgage in 2017, my 2016 W2 had 8 months income on it and I had no taxable income or W2s for the 13 previous years (long story). That W2 had maybe $35k taxable income and they gave me a mortgage for $150k, actually pre-approved me for $275k, but I didn't want that much.

    I was told by the mortgage broker that they would look at my actual pay stubs and bank payroll deposits when calculating how much they would lend me.

    I guess he wasn't being honest or flat out didn't know how to do his job.
     
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    No ... he knew his job. I used to be a loan officer. Pay stubs verfied with deposits are the primary driver.

    Tax documentation is for business, 1099 or otherwise unverifiable income.
     
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    And as a corporation, I'll deduct the per diem. I'd like to pay less in taxes.