Per Diem Pay Question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by andrew5184, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. andrew5184

    andrew5184 Light Load Member

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    I have a simple question about per diem pay, and thought someone might be able to offer some insight. The easiest way I can ask the question I need answered is to present a scenario based on how I thnk it works, and see if I'm right.

    My assumption:
    Let's say I go to work making $0.30 a mile, with $0.08 per diem. Next, let's say I run 2,500 miles this week. My NET pay would be as follows:

    $0.08 x 2,500 = $200 with no deductions
    +$0.22 x 2,500 = $550
    - 30% (est. deductions for the heck of it) on the $550
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    NET PAY = $585

    Finally, at the end of the year, the amount reported on my w-2 will be the amount earned at $0.22 per mile.

    That's the way I currently understand it. What have I got wrong?

    Thanks.
     
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  3. Scarecrow03

    Scarecrow03 Road Train Member

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    You are correct in your question. Also at the end of the year, you won't be allowed to take the $52/day (or whatever the amount is now) deduction for per diem on your tax refund. Between that and all other deductions we truckers are allowed, I've been able to get a refund in the $2,000-3,000 range before I was married without kids.

    Also, you won't be paying as much into Social Security, Medicare, etc. Granted that may not be a bad thing since our generation (working adults ages 40 and below) won't see a nickel that we paid into the system.

    Per diem pay is a rip off, IMO.
     
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  4. andrew5184

    andrew5184 Light Load Member

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    Thanks Scarecrow! That's what I wanted to know.

    From my perspective, it's a good thing. Let me explain why I think so, at least for my situation.

    I already have lots of deductions (mortgage interest, charitable contributions, etc) and my wife works, bring home about what I make. Claiming less income will put us in a lower tax bracket or atleast reduce taxable income. I'm already used to having to pay the IRS every year, so no refund won't hurt, assuming that's what it came to.

    Also, I completely agree that social security will not be around by the time I'm eligible to draw it. I love the idea of less of my money goin into that scheme.

    Just my 2 cents, which is worth less and less all the time in this economy. LOL!

    Thanks again.
     
  5. whiteowl

    whiteowl Bobtail Member

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    the companies i looked at would take .10 a mile from you and will give you .08-.085 back. they are shorting you .015-.02 for you to receive this. you will not be able to claim any other per diem on your taxes. you will be making .25-.26 as a newbie. most places you will not be making .30 until after 4-6 months, sometimes later, after their trainer/mentor period. It may work for some people but i dont see this working for me.

    its understandable to want the money now. if you plan on buying anything large (house,car,boat,camper,personnal loan) more than likely it may not happen. you can explain what you did to the loan officer but the computer does not care.

    it comes down to- get part of the per diem due you now(and also pay the company for this option) or get it all back later. to each his own i guess.
     
  6. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    My understanding of it is that you are allowed to deduct the difference between 80% of the maximum allowable per diem deduction based on your days out and what you were paid in per diem. That's assuming you have enough deductions to itemize your tax return.

    If your company isn't taking part of that per diem payment as an offset for administrative costs, then aside from the cons that reduced AGI brings it does shield some of your income from taxation.
     
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