Percentage/Commission Pay Question

Discussion in 'Trucker Legal Advice' started by amscontr, Nov 23, 2012.

  1. amscontr

    amscontr Light Load Member

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    Do people in sales or other commission type of payroll in other industries get to see what they are getting a percentage of the gross pay?
     
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  3. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    If you're leased onto a carrier and are being paid a percentage of linehaul, you have a legal right to see the original freight bills at the primary terminal of your carrier. If you're being paid mileage, you're out of luck.

    376.12(g):

    (g) Copies of freight bill or other form of freight documentation. When a lessor's revenue is based on a percentage of the gross revenue for a shipment, the lease must specify that the authorized carrier will give the lessor, before or at the time of settlement, a copy of the rated freight bill or a computer-generated document containing the same information, or, in the case of contract carriers, any other form of documentation actually used for a shipment containing the same information that would appear on a rated freight bill. When a computer-generated document is provided, the lease will permit lessor to view, during normal business hours, a copy of any actual document underlying the computer-generated document. Regardless of the method of compensation, the lease must permit lessor to examine copies of the carrier's tariff or, in the case of contract carriers, other documents from which rates and charges are computed, provided that where rates and charges are computed from a contract of a contract carrier, only those portions of the contract containing the same information that would appear on a rated freight bill need be disclosed. The authorized carrier may delete the names of shippers and consignees shown on the freight bill or other form of documentation.
     
  4. jbourque

    jbourque Heavy Load Member

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    no law however the states attorney general have gone after a few. like pulley transport, perkel, .silvey ref., midwest dist but they had some other issues also. all were suppose to refund the drivers as far as i know drivers ever got there money. its just a bad way for a company driver to get paid. im not picking on o/o but that could b the worst way for a company to get payed an o/o with 2 or 3 trucks. jon
     
  5. Hardlyevr

    Hardlyevr Road Train Member

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    Percentage is only a bad way for a company driver to get paid if it is a bad company. My company has more than several drivers getting percentage that have been with them well over 20+ years.
     
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  6. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    my experience has been the complete opposite

    when you get mileage pay, you MUST run 3000mi per week (just a figure)
    but when you get percentage pay, you can make that same money driving 2500 or less

    not always

    but anything beats having to run X amount of miles EVERY WEEK

    (my experience may differ from yours)
     
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  7. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    if you are getting paid mileage, why do you need to see the rate sheet in the first place?
     
  8. amscontr

    amscontr Light Load Member

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    I'd just like to see the breakdown of the rate that I'm getting a % of, after FSC of course.
     
  9. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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    No Snowwy, no federal law but various state laws cover this where the carrier bases his operation. It's a losing battle for the employee though, you'll be fired for stirring the pot. Best thing a driver can do is move on. This causes the carrier pain in retention and recruiting.

    Unfortunately carrier mgmt is very stupid. Driver after driver will turnover and all they do is increase recruiting efforts rather than fix / recognize the problem. Yep, lets just add a few more managers, that will fix it.

    And you're right, my former dispatchers had access to my pay structure and used this info to push their bonuses. Always saw a newbie on the more lucrative runs especially when they were on the flat salary coming out of the hole.


    Almost forgot: Federal minimum wage laws apply here too. Not that it's a big deal but they do. ( To employees )
     
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  10. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    when i first came back out here. i was running 3500 miles +. including a lot of dh head miles. then they changed the pay to mileage. and the newer guys were making just as much as me. driving less miles. most of the guys can't handle 2500 miles.

    then i changed to mileage. my dh went down and my pay went up. still running 3500 + miles. and if i was lucky, i actually got paid for tarping also. never got that on the percent pay.
     
  11. fisher guy

    fisher guy Road Train Member

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    nope company driver 38 of us here and been here 4 months, never once have i heard someone complain about pay
     
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