Percentage pay, how to know if they are cheating you?

If they guarantee that you get a certain percent of 100%, and they have an open door policy you should be good. Definitely look at three or four drivers average pay and see if it works out for you. Talk to a few of the drivers make sure they're comfortable with what they're getting paid and that they feel like the company is being honest. If they can't be open and honest about any of these things I would move on. Good luck let us know how it turns out.

 

Most of the time you don't know!!.. "If" other drives want to show you their pay you can gauge by that however sometimes No One wants to show someone their personal pay and are not obligated too what do you do then? (%) Percentqge pay is a 'Hit' or 'Miss' situation especially without a rate con. At least with a definite set cpm rate you can at least gauge & calculate your set generated earnings. I feel in difficult times (%) pay works for the companies in order of making an edge on their short fall by not showing a driver the rate con. Kind of a way to scheme the driver when the want to save and benefit in downtimes like now in the industry.

 

You don't know really. How hard is it in this day and age of computers to change or doctor up a rate con before passing it along to a driver ?

I'd stay above 25% if the rates are decent. Again, do you ever really know the real rate ?

 

In my field (LTL Flatbed) my BOLs are also the bill the customer gets so this isn't really an issue. How many layers do you have to go through to get the actual price they pay? Percentage can be nice, but when larger customers get deals for bulk orders you eat it.

 

Really easy to photoshop a rate con to show lower rate to driver than actual rate.

This happened to me at multiple carriers.

Another thing carriers could do is open up a brokerage and broker their loads to themselves or find other backdoor ways to steal from drivers.

Being all this I've experienced at multiple carriers it's most definitely a common thing out there.

There is nothing more shady than the trucking industry.

 

I’ll gladly show any of my guys the invoice the customer received if they have questions about whether what they got paid is correct.

From what I’ve seen % typically works out in the driver’s favor vs. mileage. There are definitely times mileage would have paid better, but when everything is said and done at the end of the year, % comes out on top. Obviously this depends greatly on the rates the company is charging and what the pay is per mile.

 

% of a load just adds confusion to everything, I agree with you.

I like Schneider's all-in-rate load board idea. "We need a tractor to move this from here to there, this is what we are paying. You are responsible for fuel, tolls, everything, this is what we pay." 'Course Schneider is a carrier and broker, and their rates are lowest tier, but they always have work.

 

I’ve worked on % for 6 years. It’s not IF they’re cheating you, it’s how much? Now I will say mine has been in the end dump industry, and not tanker so maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about and I’m just cynical. But in my experience, theres too many ways to hide, skim, and shave numbers when it’s not a cut and dry issue. Mileage pay you can see what you ran, hourly pay you see yours hours and can compare those to your pay respectively. @Tall Mike is absolutely correct, they can show you what it pays all day.. but is that REALLY what it pays? If your checks are what you can live with and are happy with, that’s about all you can ask for.