Motocross25 above me is right...
Unless you are the MC (Carrier), DOT # and Insurer, and have a contract with the shipper, you will have no idea what the rate is.
Percentage pay, how to know if they are cheating you?
Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Loudstacks, Mar 16, 2024.
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I think mileage pay is cheating you. I'll take percentage anytime.
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I've always heard Heniff was the go to for tanker O/OP's, but he changed my mind with his real world experiences. -
Dispatcher: "Yeah, I'll take it"
Driver: "So, what's the rate con for the load that's 1150 miles?"
Dispatch: "Best this load pays is $638 so I'd take if I were you because there are tons of drivers who want it I could get. It's around $2100 ..I will email you the original rate con. In these times that's around $0.58 cpm whiles most are scratching to get $0.50 cpm at best in this market remember you're smarter than the rest of those drivers who work for the mile still. Your getting 30% of our load, were just giving top dollar"
Driver: "Yeah, you're probably right I'll take it".
Trucking Company Owner: "How much did you give to the driver for that load? I sure hope you're saving us money because the market in a slump still. Better be less than $800..?.."
Dispatcher: "He said he would do it for $638.."
Trucking Company Owner: "WHAT?!.!..WHOW!, you're good. Ha..take that extra $162 you saved me for yourself. I'm glad we can sucker these steering wheel holders who always want more and more for just holding my trucks steering wheels. I need to hire more suckers like him. Remember when I had the rate per mile at a steady $0.75 cpm..?"
Dispatcher: "Yeah, we losing a lot on those lower paying loads we sent out"
Trucking Company Owner: "Yeah, but now we Sucker them into what ever we feel and save on our end by scheming straight from the top or lower rates & print up whatever we want...#### fools"
Point of all of this is a trucking company is looking at all angles including if they had to pay 23% to 25% of a load they still want to pay a driver then least they can. 18.2% is what this driver decides to take NEVER knowing what's going on with the real rate con from the Broker to Dispatcher or even what the Company Owner anticipated. It was still lower then $0.75 cpm and then the Dispatcher saved them even more. The driver will NEVER see the 30% ($1050) of the REAL rate con. Deception at its best while the driver thinks he is winning but naive to not knowing he isn't.Last edited: Mar 17, 2024
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Read https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2015-11-30/pdf/2015-30237.pdfLoudstacks Thanks this. -
I watched the step son of a company owner who took over a small, specialized, portion of the step father's business under his own DOT number with a hand full of drivers paid % and it grew in to a small fleet leased to another carrier.
I watched him gather up a few customers that he protected by meeting the downward price pushes by the local competition taking the reduction in his portion of the revenue in order to not cut his drivers pay.
Later his longest term driver quits griping that his % hasn't gone up so he's leaving....go figure.
I know a lot of owner operators who came to tanks from flatbed mentioning how the BOL was the freight invoice and the top page was an advance check for a good portion of the expected operator's revenue.
I don;t think any company does this now but Krajack used to include and actual copy of the invoice with the operator's settlements.Loudstacks and NightWind Thank this. -
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