Permitted load stopping at truck stops

Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by Highwolf89, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. TripleSix

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    US Marshal or Navy Seal?
     
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  3. Superhauler

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    14 yrs ago! COME ON! things have changed since then. this thread started with some one asking a simple question. OK here is the answer. yes he can stop if he wants to. there is three ways of doing it. 1- take a chance and hope you don't get caught. 2- request it on permit when ordering it. 3- amend permit at a cost of $10 to $50 depending on the circumstance. here's a good one, if you stop at some t/s that is on a non state route what other document do you need to enter said t/s?
     
  4. Rontonio

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    City/county/municipality permit, permission and any other bs someone can dream up - likely pilot cars and maybe a bucket truck
     
  5. Superhauler

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    BINGO!!!!!!!
     
  6. Rontonio

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    Just so you know- I doubt I could find Ohio if you gave me a map, gps and smoke signals. But load or unload in California and you will know all you ever need to know about other permits.
     
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  7. Superhauler

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    found that the hard way once back in my stupid years. took an oversize to Anaheim Ca. made it all the way to the driveway where we was delivering. Anaheim local sitting there. came walkin up asked for permit. handed him my Caltrans permit. guess what? wrong permit! HERE'S YER TICKET!
     
  8. Rontonio

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    Last load needed 2 city and 2 county plus the state, gets expensive because I have to use a permit service because most of the cities/counties want an escrow account.
     
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  9. Superhauler

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    that's how some counties in michican are. wont even deal with a permit service. must be me or company rep.
     
  10. Heavy Hammer

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    *****WARNING***** ^^^ This is a troll!!
    I am not responding directly to the troll above, this is for the learning people.
    You DO NOT have the Right to do anything with an OS or OW load. It is against FMCSA (that's F as in Federal...the whole country by the way) law to move anything on any public road anywhere in the country that does not conform to standard regulations! That is why we get these funky little pieces of very expensive paper called Permits. Just look at what it's called; a Permit, short for Permission. This Permit tells you that you have Special Permission to move a particular item/vehicle/load provided that you follow the conditions or rules specified on that Permit, including possessing & following rules specified on a condition sheet. The authority issuing that permit does not have to allow you anything they don't want to because it's permission, not a right.
    You don't have to agree with it, but if you violate the conditions, you are subject to insanely costly fines from actual legal dimensions &/or weights up to your dim's/weight at the time of violation.
    I don't agree with all of the permits, rules, and conditions I get...and I get a lot of them as this is all I do everyday. I'm aware that when I choose to ignore them, I am subject to getting my peepee slapped!

    For JD & Catalina; One of our people is also on that panel. Our rep did a presentation a few years ago showing all the states, how different their rules are, and how difficult it can be to comply with everybody's rules when you cross many state lines with an OS/OW load and neighboring states contradict one another. This same presentation was given to the NTSB due to a major accident that they investigated. They were alarmed at the contradictions, and in the report this was actually listed as a factor.
    At two consecutive annual conferences Ohio agreed verbally to change this particular grievance, they have not yet done so, and they are beginning to get the reputation of acting like children. They agree, then go home and say "Nope, not gonna be told what to do by others." (No offense to your state JD). Quite frankly, I for one am glad they have been childish. Ohio is one of the primary reasons that the 30min exemption rule was approved, so thank you Ohio!
    I would love to see one of these tickets go to court, with the attendees that verbally agreed answering to that on the stand and then try to explain themselves. Perhaps then they may grow up and make this change to show those of us who do this type of work some decency & respect. However until then it is Ohio's right to tell me "No", and it is mine to continue to cross the state of Ohio without stopping and refusing to put a single dollar into the states economy. PA, WV, KY, & IN appreciate my business, & they get it.
     
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  11. johndeere4020

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    That's why I didn't dignify that post with a response. I'm aware of Ohio's behavior and I'm not offended in the least. But this is why we have to be sure of what each states rules ARE not just what we've been "told" you get a ticket what you've been "told" is irrelevant. Someone mentioned exit 79 in Ohio, I love off of that exit I know it well. That's in Madison county I live in the next county but I go through there to get to 70. With a permit load I drop at exit 66 at the fuel mart, that's in Clark county outside the reaches of deputy Talbert (that's the Madison county scale man before him it was deputy Waggoner I know both of them on a first name basis I just don't want to post there first names here) first thing every morning he cruises those truck stops because he know if there's a permit load there they are likely to be off route. Then he parks at McDonald's or at Ernies and waits. I sorry from experience and I'm on the email list with Ohio when they change any thing they make an announcement. Of you avoid Madison county, licking county, and Lodi you will be fine (usually)
     
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