That is not quite true. If you are being dispatched to some location to get a trailer and go to work, then yes you would be in a driving situation requiring logging.
However, if you left a trailer at some location, and then bobtailed to the house, took a break (10, 34, whatever), then headed back to the location you left the trailer, the all of that time is considered personal conveyance. So while you would be driving in a direction to go back to work, you are returning to the location for which you went off duty last. No foul.
Like was stated, the condition is "unladen", not "untrailered". The trailer is not considered cargo for the purposes of being laden.
It is true, that company policy, if stricter, trumps FMCSA regulations. And, of course, logging driving every time the truck is moving is not discouraged or required by the FMCSA. And if you hardly ever use much driving unladen and have ample hours available anyway, then it is really a non issue. But if hours available are an issue, and you meet the requirements, then it is sensible to use the personal conveyance option when you can. It is just that, an available option. It has to be used wisely and in accordance with the conditions for its use. No difference than using the OPTION of a 34 hr reset, OPTION of splitting the 10 hr break into 8 and 2, or any other options that are available.
personal conveyance thread
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by mickeyrat, Mar 31, 2012.
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Cowpie1 Road Train Member
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- Nov 25, 2008
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Daniel.trawick Road Train Member
- Nov 28, 2011
Ok I got a question. You are at a shipper/ consignee. You run out of hours loading/unloading. You are not allowed to stay their and are forced to move. How do you log it? Personnel conveyance ( off duty driving ) to nearest safe haven or on duty driving with note ( force to move) to nearest safe haven? Might be a dumb question but I just want to know what is more legal to do.
RickG Road Train Member
- Jul 22, 2008
If you are loaded you are on duty even if you are out of hours .
Wooly Rhino Road Train Member
- Jul 6, 2008
I drive a 1972 Gran Torino Sport. I do not log any of the time.
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Scalemaster Heavy Load Member
1 - commuting to and from home from the "normal work reporting location" - i.e. terminal
2 - "traveling short distances from a drivers en route lodgings (such as en route terminals or motels) to restaurants in the vicinity of such lodgings"
The phrase "Safe havens" is not mentioned. That term has to do with route controlled HM.
In your given scenario it would be driving time, line 3.turnanburn, LaBubba, CAXPT and 2 others Thank this.
turnanburn Medium Load Member
- Jan 25, 2011
Well that certainly tightens up the situations where PC can be used.
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