Personal usage in PA over 26,000 lb. Ifta needed?

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  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I'm using my tractor trailer non commercially. I will probably register it for about 40,000 lbs.

    Do I need to have an Ifta sticker If it is 100% private usage?

    Also, if I go into the neighboring states, New Jersey Delaware maryland, is there some kind of permit or something I need to travel there on a personal plate with that size truck to pick up antique trucks?
     
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  3. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    "Qualified motor vehicles used/designed to transport people or property may require IFTA registration if they: Have three or more axles. Have two axles and a gross vehicle or registered gross vehicle weight of more than 26,000 pounds or 11,797 kilograms."

    How to meet IFTA requirements.

    Personal vehicle or not does not seem to matter. It goes off of axles and weight.
     
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  4. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    So I guess I need a trip permit to go into one of the neighboring states?

    If that's the case do I get that through the Pennsylvania Department of revenue?
     
  5. ZVar

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    PA you have two options. Register as an RV and meet those requirements, or register as a CMV. If you register as a CMV IFTA is required. As an RV it's not required.

    https://www.michigan.gov/taxes/business-taxes/ifta/faq/general
     
  6. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    You told him what he needed to do in PA then sent him a link to the site for Michigan? Even I'm confused.
     
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    I’d register it as an RV if you’re not going to use it commercially
     
  9. ZVar

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    I agree with registering as an RV. Problem is PA is very picky about what will be allowed to register as an RV. There is something like a list of 10 items, and you have to have 5 to be able to register. The numbers may be off, but the concept is there.
     
  10. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    As far as I understand in Pennsylvania to change it to an RV you have to actually not only modify the truck, but the title itself is changed and it can't go back to being commercial again without a colossal nightmare of a Pennsylvania process to do that.

    In pennsylvania, they don't want you to go back and forth. Once you change that it's pretty much permanent. After that I don't think you can ever get your original title and VIN number back.

    Pennsylvania just stinks that way. You're not allowed to change your truck from a tractor into a dump truck, you're not allowed to add lift axles or any of that kind of stuff in Pennsylvania any longer.

    They tell me now all of that can only be done by a certified body builder, and I believe they actually have to do the installation, not just sign off on it.

    They have become barbaric in all of their rules as far as that kind of thing goes.
     
  11. Ridgeline

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    Define private usage.

    Is this a business or a hobby?
     
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