Personal use truck to leasing on

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by D-Day, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. D-Day

    D-Day Bobtail Member

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    I have a slightly unconventional question I can't get a good answer for, and yes, I have searched prior. Called Ohio title office, BMV, etc. too. Good luck ever getting an answer you need out of them...

    While I did find a lot of good information on titling a truck for personal use, or leasing on, I have a combo question to that effect.

    Before leasing on to a company, I'd want to give the truck a shakedown close to home and work on it a bit beforehand as I like older trucks. It may not even become a working truck, maybe just another hole in my wallet with my old cars, (pickup) trucks and motorcycles.

    If I title it non-commercial, then later use a company plate I have leased on to (in theory), do I just put their plate on and pay taxes, IFTA, all the fun stuff through them, or do I need to reclassify my title before that?

    Surely fancy show trucks that got worked on and driven privately, and later used to work have made this transition. I'm just wondering how exactly it happens so I can properly mentally masturbate this haphazardous idea.

    It is very much appreciated.
     
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  3. HopeOverMope

    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

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    From what I’ve understood, until that truck is leased on to a company - it is not a commercial vehicle. Especially in the case of driving off after a purchase, a title and a bill of sale got me through AZ scales, NM scales ...

    I was told by a dot officer if your not hauling a load, not leased to a motor carrier then don’t stop in the scales. They may try to get you to volunteer commercial status by asking you what your intentions are, best answer I found was “ I just bought the truck and my plans are to take it home and work on it before I think about doing anything with it “ ... it’s a personal vehicle at this point

    Bobtail insurance helped, and a one way trip permit from the purchase state-

    Can’t help you much about driving around after you get it back to your place
     
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  4. 06driver

    06driver Road Train Member

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    There is no commercial title. A title is just proof of ownership.

    The difference is in how the truck is registered. You can use a temporary permit to get it home. If you decide to use it then you get a registration and pay all the fun stuff.
     
  5. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Ohio has on the books the same thing Michigan has, if it is over 26,001 GVW, then it is considered a commercial vehicle. This is why I had to "convert" my little truck to an RV, it allowed me to sidestep this, and I am happy but that truck will never be used for commercial reasons at all.
     
  6. homeskillet

    homeskillet Road Train Member

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    In Ohio the sign says "All trucks and buses over 5 tons GVW enter scales".

    I called ahead to OHP years ago when I was going thru Ohio with a UHaul, to see if I had to pull in the scales. The answer was yes, and I did, and I didn't get immediately green-lighted, either. Ymmv by state....
     
  7. D-Day

    D-Day Bobtail Member

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    My vernacular was clumsy this morning after another 14 hour day with the title/plate. Title seems straight forward, just put it in my name.

    As for the plate, that's where the couple grand comes in to tag it. So tag it to pay commercial weight tax, but when I want to actually drive it on bobtail insurance for personal use, list on the truck not for hire, private coach, etc. To get around logging and the alphabet agency number jumble.

    At least that's how it would seem so far...? All your input is very useful.
     
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