Peterbilt vs. Freightliner weight difference and fuel mileage

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by lawrence1, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. Steve & Lo

    Steve & Lo Medium Load Member

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    Prime uses the 387s....and one of the requirements is that we be able to load 44k+....not to mention the 387 is more aerodynamic. Also, they have gone to the Carrier units. I talked to one of the trailer mechs and he said the carrier moves a lot more air than the TK units. They are louder....but they perform better and use less fuel. Also, our 53' Wabash trailers are 1500 pounds lighter than our 53' Great Danes. Our empty weight with our Century and a 53' Wabash is 34K. That's with all the crap that my wife and I have in the truck.
     
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  3. Peanut Butter

    Peanut Butter Road Train Member

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    I prefer Peterbilts to any other truck, just seem nicer ride and handling, but i would go with something more than a 10 speed, a 13 or 15 would be better for fuel milage since those would have over drive and lower rpms than would the 10 speed.At 65 mph look at the rpms on the 10 speed then drive one with a 13 or 15 speed and notice where your rpms are at 65, makes a difference.
     
  4. 24valve puller

    24valve puller Medium Load Member

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    Not to mention a 13 or 18 spd should have the higher torque rating to let you have some power. 475 hp is fine for a tandem dump truck
     
  5. 2fuzy

    2fuzy Road Train Member

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    I spent about half of last month truck shopping and the resale is not very good on the T2000/387 trucks after talking to alot of mechanics there combined opin is the are a plastic covered turd
    if resale is the prime concern a W-9 or 379 hold value the best also the most to get into
    Resale only means somthing if you plan to sell the truck
     
  6. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Unbelievably the t600 holds its resale well. www.truckpaper.com and do a search.
     
  7. 550hpW900L

    550hpW900L Road Train Member

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    More proof that a wabash sucks, the danes prime uses are super seals and are heavier suckers. Great danes are heavier than most of your trailers, but guess what? 15 years later that dane will still be running the road with a solid floor and no cracks in the doors, while the wabash will be out of comission in less than half that time.
     
  8. coastie

    coastie Road Train Member

    There really not that much difference in either truck with a 53 foot reefer. A few months ago, I loaded next to a Pete with a 53 foot dry Van and I was in a Freightliner FLD120 Condo with a reefer. I was about 300 pounds lighter.

    You should be able to carry around 45000LBS no matter which one.

    As for which is better Truck? Pete may have the higher resale, but I yet driven one worth the money.
     
  9. Markvfl

    Markvfl Road Train Member

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    I'm interested in your opinion of your Western Star. Found an 05, 76" sleeper, 475 CAT/13OD/3:55, O/O specs and 470K miles that looks like a good deal and would like to hear from O/O's who have them. I read somewhere in this forum that they are built on par with Pete's and KW's quality? I like the Pete best but they're cramped inside, the W900's are a great compromise, but I'm really interested in the Western Star because it's not a dime a dozen. Maybe there's a good reason for that... hhhmmmmmm......
     
  10. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The Star has a wide cab, unlike the narrower large cars from PACCAR. You might like it, you might not, but there is lots of room between the seats. 05 would be a twin turbo C15. There are quirks, you can't open a door without unlocking it, and the side boxes most likely will be keyed with a completely different key, even the small compartments in front have another key, those keys can't be cut from the VIN either. The HVAC for the bunk is in front under the refrigerator in the truck I'm driving. The sleeper is formed from a composite, strong and rigid, not too noisy. Resale can be very good, depending on specs. I'd rather see a lower number axle ratio to keep the rpms down at cruising speed.

    Hope it's a forward axle (FA or EX)and not a setback axle,(SA).
     
  11. 7mouths2feed

    7mouths2feed "Family Man"

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    The specs (13spd, 3.55) with 22.5 LP will put him at 1380 RPM at 65 mph. 1487RPM at 70

    with 24 lp's 1451rpm at 70 or 1348rpm at 65 Should put that kitty right into the sweet spot for milage
     
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