Petition to oppose FMCSA speed limiter mandate

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Bret1984, May 5, 2022.

  1. DirtyBob

    DirtyBob Road Train Member

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    Looks like the ATA has finally gotten their wish to reduce competition. They were trying well before '16 to make this happen with Dan England pushing for it as the ATA chairman along with other competition reduction policies. They claim this is to help them achieve their goal of reaching 0 deaths on the highways of America. The only thing I can figure out is shooting deaths don't count towards that statistic.

    Think it's time to take the pay cut for a couple years ang start that programming job.
     
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  3. W923

    W923 Medium Load Member

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    Maybe they should do the same thing for 4 wheelers…honestly I see a lot more reckless spending from them than any trucks. Not to mention all the big fleets are already limited.
    Actually almost got killed by a 4 wheeler 3 years ago unloading a trackhoe on a country road
     
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  4. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    My renewal is due so maybe I'll call them and ask what they would need in order to fight it on an equal level. If such an action is even feasible on a legal and technical level...but why not? They have enough followers and they would be the best coordinator out there.
    So far I just pay annual dues and trust them with whatever they do. I never found myself in the opposition to what they say. That's just need more muscle. We can spam FMCSA portal and email those congressmen but I am afraid that petitions have no real bearing. Protest convoys just make noise. Shutting down..? Megas won't shut down over this. Quite the opposite. It has to be fought with the same sword.
     
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  5. Bret1984

    Bret1984 Light Load Member

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    Let's do some math shall we?
    10 hours with an average speed of 60mph is 600 miles.
    Increase your average speed to 65mph and that's an additional 50 miles.
    An extra 50 miles a day, 5 days out of the week at a pay rate of .45cpm which any of us can make hauling vans for a mega carrier adds up to an additional $112.50 a week or $450 a month. Want a new car? Well, there's your new car payment. Increase your average speed by 10mph and there's your mortgage payment. Turning down trucks hurts drivers wallets.
     
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  6. Bret1984

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    Up to 40 with 25 supporters now plus a few comments. I just finished giving the ❤ react to each comment.
     
  7. Bret1984

    Bret1984 Light Load Member

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    It's not physics though. Fuel efficiency has more to do with RPM's than speed. Where that "sweet spot" is on the RPM's where peak efficiency is achieved is going to vary from truck to truck. In top gear the optimal RPM range for peak efficiency may be around 60mph or it could be closer to 70mph depending on how the truck is geared. Physics effects MPG's to the extent of aerodynamics and weight. As for the optimal speed that will be the speed at which optimal RPM's are achieved in top gear for highway driving. So no, slower is not more efficient which is why the city mpg rating is going to be lower than the highway mpg rating on any vehicle despite slower speeds during city driving. If the slower you are the more efficient you are were true then city mpg ratings would be higher than highway mpg ratings.
     
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    @rollin coal already beat me to what would have been my rebuttal
     
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    Bret1984 Light Load Member

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    You could put me down for another grand
     
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  10. Lyle H

    Lyle H Heavy Load Member

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    It is physics.
    You can run at the "sweet spot" at a slower speed. It's called shifting the transmission to a lower gear. Same "sweet spot" just slower speed. Less wind resistance, better fuel mileage.
    Your comment about city driving is wrong too. The reason the city mileage is always lower is because of the constant starting and stopping in traffic and at stop lights. Has nothing to do with speed.
    I'm not disagreeing with you about the speed limit debate, just the comments you made about fuel economy.
     
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  11. Bret1984

    Bret1984 Light Load Member

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    Correct, the starting and stopping adds another element outside of just speed. Perhaps I should have articulated it better but that was the point I was trying to make that speed alone isn't the sole factor in MPG's. Other things effect that. As for a lower gear that depends on the transmission. You might get away with that on the freeway with an 18 speed but optimal RPM on a 10 speed in 9th gear is going to be around 45mph. Do you want to drive 45mph on the freeway where the speed limit is 75? If so you must be hauling sand boxes out here in WTX and are the first I've met to speak English.
     
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