Petition to oppose FMCSA speed limiter mandate

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Bret1984, May 5, 2022.

  1. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

    Apr 26, 2013
    Gettin' down westbound
    ok do this. next load u haul. pick a speed that ur gonna cruise down the interestate at.. lets pick 60 mph for example... 60mph is your all day cruising speed. drive until the end of your shift, lets say 10 hours... i can gurantee you, you will not cover 600 miles over the course of 10 hours at 60mph cruising speed.. dont matter where ur at or where ur going . its impossible, unless that truck is on a dyno at a constant 60mph and never slows down or speeds up, not even 1 mph. and they dont start the clock until the truck is up to speed... otherwise over the course of a day, we are constantly slowing down and speeding up so if ur crusing speed is 60mph.. then your average speed over the course of the day is going to be somewhere around 53mph. maybe 55-57 if you know how to keep the left door closed and its mostly flat on the other side of that, think of a truck that blows past you doing 80mph.. but he passes you 4 or more times in the day.. and you end up parking at the same truck stop at the end of your shift... he averaged the same speed as you but burned more fuel to do it... going faster only helps if you know how to keep the left door closed..see what im getting at here?

    @Cattleman84 is one of the most efficient drivers that i know when it comes to this..i have seen him cover 650+ miles a day , everyday in a 68mph truck running out west and on elogs.. there is an art to that and not many drivers can do it.
    Last edited: May 9, 2022
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  3. simpatico

    simpatico Light Load Member

    Apr 3, 2022
    Kansas City
    Really wish those ############# s would keep their noses behind their desks in DC for a change. Morons are completely destroying this industry.
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  4. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

    Sep 18, 2009
    1918 Anywhere, USA 90210
    I get exactly what your saying. Out west it's far easier to average 600 plus. Anywhere east of Kansas City, it's going to be difficult to get past 550 or 600, especially if you're driving during the day time. I've done that exact experiment. Speed don't mean as much as people think. I agree with you, efficiency is key. I don't run past 600 miles unless necessary; reason being, I like to run with balance, and if you're run is 550 or less, you know for sure you can make that with the time given. I think load planning plays a bigger role than the speed of the truck. Even if a driver does 700 one day, I guarantee he ain't doing 700 the next, or every day for that matter.
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  5. Bret1984

    Bret1984 Light Load Member

    Mar 4, 2020
    Fort Worth, TX
    I'm pretty sure I acknowledged that speed doesn't compensate for poor planning or excess stops. I've always been able to cover more miles in a faster truck. I've ran a 62mpg limited truck and consistently got over 600 miles running at night and running out my clock. I do much better in a fast truck. The only thing that changes is the speed. It's the same driver running the same way.
  6. tiddlytanker

    tiddlytanker Light Load Member

    May 4, 2017
    Minot, ND
    I run 65 mainly because its exhausting to spend 70 hours a week passing other slow trucks and I guess I get fuel savings as well. When I do pass I do it fast by speeding up to the speed limit. Sitting beside another truck passing 1mph faster is dangerous.

    Anything less than 70mph would be devastating to me. I'm not going to be one of those guys spending all day in the hammer lane blocking traffic. Just when you think politicians couldn't make this job more miserable...
  7. ProfessionalNoticer

    ProfessionalNoticer Road Train Member

    Apr 25, 2021
    Same here. I used to never log more than 600 miles before the ELD mandate passed because I was always worried DOT would try to cite me for speeding. Now so much data is out from the ELDs that they prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that 60 mph theory was not really worth much. Goes runners are covering much more than that in 11 hours than the government would ever like to have admitted in the past.
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  8. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

    Mar 5, 2017
    Kansas City, MO.
    So I am not gonna read all of this thread but gonna make one comment I don't think anyone has about the speed limiting. I spec'd my truck to run a certain speed and if I don't run it like that then the government should have to pay to have my truck spec'd to that speed limiter.
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  9. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

    Mar 5, 2017
    Kansas City, MO.
    If the money is good I do it. But the money has to be worth it. I can drive 700 miles every day for a week strait if I can get in and out of loads fast enough. You need that speed to get that extra load or two during your 70 and the money makes up for the fuel cost if done right.
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  10. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

    Dec 9, 2017
    That seems to be a difficult concept for people to grasp.
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  11. Tug Toy

    Tug Toy Road Train Member

    Jul 4, 2015
    Corn field
    If it so safe to have truck speeds governed then why not just mandate that speed limit and hand out speeding tickets? Why set governor on the trucks? If speed limiting trucks is so safe then why did we ever change from 55mph? Are California highways safer than anywhere else? There still 55mph right? Illinois just recently raised trucks from 60 to 70?
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