Playing with numbers, productivity and operating costs

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Freightlinerbob, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. Freightlinerbob

    Freightlinerbob Road Train Member

    2,234
    1,316
    Jan 15, 2012
    West Coast B.C.
    0
    I'll qualify my post by saying that these kinds of arguments always depend on the nature of one's work and that there isn't one approach that can be applied across the board. These kinds of posts also depend on arbitrary numbers being plugged in, in order to validate the argument.

    If you drop and hook boxes and move them around the country, this likely won't apply to you. But if, like me, you live load and unload everything and need to always deliver early enough in the week so that you can reload by Friday @ 5 PM or you're SOL until Monday.

    I do a rounder a week at an average of 3500 miles. Some guys I work with drive way slower and do 3 trips in the time I do 4, and tell me that driving faster never gains anything. I don't buy that any more than I buy the argument that if you work for a high enough rate you don't need to worry about costs.

    I run a lot of western Canada and my fuel costs per US gallon are a little higher than if I ran in the US exclusively, but these are my actual numbers for price per US gallon, maintenance and fixed costs all in Canadian dollars.


    $4.25/gallon

    @ 7 mpg $0.607/mile

    @ 6mpg $0.707/mile

    Maintenance $0.10/mile

    Fixed costs $4,000/month (insurance, interest, principal, depreciation, workers comp, pro-rate, parking etc. etc. )
    $0.38/mile @ 10,500 miles
    $0.28/mile @ 14,000 miles


    3 trips a month@ 7 mpg @ 3500 miles each:

    $0.607- fuel
    $0.10 maintenance
    $0.38-fixed costs

    Operating cost: $1.087/ mile

    Assuming you have the work available.......

    4 trips a month @ 6 mpg @ 3500 miles each:

    $0.708 -fuel
    $0.10 - maintenance
    $0.28 -fixed costs

    Operating cost: $1.088/ mile


    What do you think?
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

    2,856
    4,032
    May 26, 2011
    everywhere, man
    0
    missing some info here. at what mph do you achieve 7 mpg and at what mph do you achieve 6 mpg ? But yes, I see your point, ASSUMING that you can get an extra load driving a bit faster it may offset the reduced mileage.

    However, it is fair to point out that even driving a bit faster, and additional 3500 miles per month has got to mean an additional 50-60 hours behind the wheel. perhaps time spent to find better paying loads, preventative maintenance to save $$$, etc.. ? you have maint. cost the same both ways, this may not apply to you, but for me when I run less miles I have more time to find better freight, plan, save money on maintenance, look for new opportunities, and those activities pay off for me.
     
  4. Freightlinerbob

    Freightlinerbob Road Train Member

    2,234
    1,316
    Jan 15, 2012
    West Coast B.C.
    0
    Neither of us looks for our own freight but we do set out own pace. If it's tight but doable for a Friday reload I'll push to make it happen. The other guy will hang back and deliver Monday. Part of it is that they live or have kids that live along the way. I live on the left coast and run east so once I'm out I can't slide by the house.

    Holding off waiting for better paying loads still means being "at work" and not at home. To me there isn't much difference except if I have room on the deck for LTL. Then I'll hang back and try to capitalize on it.
     
  5. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

    3,757
    1,643
    Jul 22, 2010
    Houston,Texas
    0
    Maint. is too low also.. I do like your selective dispatch ( hold off / wait ) I do same thing. Might gross less but make more profits thru reduced maint. and fuel.
     
  6. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

    3,757
    1,643
    Jul 22, 2010
    Houston,Texas
    0
    How come your "fixed costs " keep moving Bob? Isn't that your notes and fixed payments ? I don't see a variable column for your fuel etc......

    I have a fixed column and a variable column that drops to zero when I don't move. I use this to track trends in freight with times and seasons. I can also see the variable driving my maint. costs so I can select freight and decline the losers.
     
    SheepDog Thanks this.
  7. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

    5,946
    10,066
    Aug 28, 2011
    State of Jefferson
    0
    14,000 miles/month vs 10,500 miles/month is a pretty extreme case.

    And at 10,500 miles/month you could easily get by at 50mph which should be over 8mpg. Additionally, your maintenance costs at 50mph are going to be much lower than at 70


    But if slowing down 5mph would result in a weekend layover, by all means drive faster.
     
  8. Freightlinerbob

    Freightlinerbob Road Train Member

    2,234
    1,316
    Jan 15, 2012
    West Coast B.C.
    0
    Chalupa:

    Fixed costs are fixed per month but not per mile.

    Maintenance costs are accurate. That's about what I spend on the tractor and trailer. Tires, oil changes, washes and running/ on going repairs.

    I did replace the motor along with some other stuff at the same time last year. That cost is in the "fixed costs" for two reasons.

    A) Canadian tax law doesn't permit expensing such a large repair bill. They want us to capitalize it and then depreciate it.

    B) I financed it so it makes sense to do A.
     
  9. Blister662

    Blister662 Bobtail Member

    34
    15
    Sep 6, 2013
    0
    Should you add taxes into your cost? Is fuel, truck payment, insurance,and, maintenance all you need to add into your running cost.
     
  10. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

    2,847
    1,592
    Sep 23, 2010
    Beaumont,Tx
    0
    Here you go look at the first column this is running 10,300 miles one month I get 5.3 mpg 90 day I did 5.5mpg the month of may I drive 68 most the time my fixed cost runs $3,000 a month and I pay $1,000 a month for my office so you can take that off the rest is load boards
    [​IMG]
     
    double yellow Thanks this.
  11. Blister662

    Blister662 Bobtail Member

    34
    15
    Sep 6, 2013
    0
    I don't understand what your percentage s are for?
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.