please explain in laymans terms how the points work on your CDL

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  1. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    That's OK. I was just trying to point out the OPs question really has nothing to do with the CSA 2010 rules. These 2 things are totally seperate. States have been accessing points for years before CSA came along.
     
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  3. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    I was unsure at first which points you were referencing. I reread after responding and concluded I erred initially and you meant state points. Fortunately I live in one of the few (9-10 I believe) left which don’t do the point thing. Anyhow, I apologize again for my misunderstanding.
     
  4. IluvCATS

    IluvCATS Road Train Member

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    Driver, if you don’t get a DOT violation, you won’t be assigned any PSP points. If you do get DOT violation, in 3 years those PSP points will be 100% gone. PSP are used by potential employers.

    DMV keeps record of moving violations, traffic tickets. Including in your home vehicle. Current and potential new also employers look at DMV record. That can be also called MVR.

    Companies get assigned CSA points for stupid things it’s drivers do. Drivers don’t have a CSA score. They have a PSP score. Zero psp points is ideal. I have about 30. But it’s not unusual.

    My company still tell us to “protect your CSA score”. It’s too complicated for a lot of people, even company heads.
     
  5. radioshark

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    Here is an explanation of PSP vs MVR points.
    PSP vs. MVR: What’s the Difference? - Employment Background Check Blog - HireRight.
    PSP are points assigned to you.
    CSA are points assigned to the carrier.
    In order for points to be issued to either of these an inspection report must be issued.
    So if you get a speeding ticket with no inspection report issued to you get Zero PSP points but do get MVR points. Cartier gets zero CSA points.
    If you get a speeding ticket and get an inspection report issued you get PSP and MVR points. The carrier is issued CSA points.
    It all depends on whether or not a inspection report is issued
     
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  6. dibstr

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    Nowhere on the link does it state Anything concerning PSP points. Previously I posted a quote from fmcsa.dot.gov that PSP does not assign a score or point values so I’ll ask again, where are you guys getting the PSP point crap from?

    Example of PSP report. Where are the points?
    https://www.psp.fmcsa.dot.gov/psp/Documents/PSP_Sample_Report_.pdf
     
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  7. Bean Jr.

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    I understand what you are saying, but I think it is just semantics. Many carriers and publications refer to "violation severity weight value" as points. When on hold with my carrier's maintainence hotline, there is a recording of how many csa points each violation is. This website refers to it as points. How Do CSA Points Affect Transportation Drivers?

    Leave it up to the government to come up with a system that compares carriers to each other, and rates them bad in terms of comparison instead of absolutes. 1 mega carrier could be considered safe because it has fewer fatal accidents than other carriers its size, but a smaller carrier could be considered unsafe because it had more license plate light violations than other carriers its size.
     
  8. Bean Jr.

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    Further, if this guy is telling the truth, CVSA inspectors refer to it as a "score".

     
  9. radioshark

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    Who cares what it’s called it’s semantics whether it’s called points, demerits, derogatory marks, record, incident or teaching moment.
    It’s meant as a way to keep bad drivers from hopping carrier to carrier.
    Insurance companies are requiring it of carriers to insure their drivers.
    Regardless if it points or whatever you decide to call it if there is a lot on it any respectable company will not hire you
     
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  10. Moose1958

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    That's because it is scored. The FMCSA like almost every other federal bureau have to write rules that by design are stupid. CSA 2010 is a perfect example. The scoring is targeted toward the carrier. If I were active and got inspected. Then said inspection listed a violation worth 21 CSA points these points go to the carrier assigned to me the driver. I have never fully understood why this has been so hard to understand. I honestly think drivers need to just drive safely and avoid getting (points) to start with.
     
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  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Check on your state driver license web pages. Google is your friend.
     
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