Please explain this to me... Landstar rates

Discussion in 'Landstar' started by TruckerWife71, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. Desert_Skies

    Desert_Skies Medium Load Member

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    Okay so its not that there is no freight or only "cheap" freight its that he is not equipped (at the moment) with the proper tools to get after all those 3.00+ loads I see over there.

    How far to book out is going to be different for everyone and should be based on their knowledge of the lanes they run and what if any agent network they have built. I start putting in load alerts for freight within 500 miles of wherever Im going to end up. I use the follow me alert and at least one custom alert. Sometimes I jump on a load only to find a better one but it all evens out in the end. Does he run a particular lane or does he do the super trucker wild man thing (Like me).
     
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  3. Desert_Skies

    Desert_Skies Medium Load Member

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    Same question for you. Define cheap freight.
     
  4. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    You should be looking for the next load the minute you book the first load. Anything else is stupid and lacks basic business sense, no matter who you drive for. He can call permits and get a faxed temp NYHUT if a load requires it. I think they cost $20 or so. Please remember this is a business. I think some online business classes would help your husband.
     
  5. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Ok....

    Rates that typically are BELOW your cost - to me, is cheap crap freight. There is TONS of it out there
    and the fact that they are falling off the load board indicates to me that these idiots are accepting it.

    $1.21 to haul 48,000lbs? - That's not cheap freight?

    Let's explore....
    If the break even cost to run is let's say $1.25/mi and you keep accepting freight at $1.12/mi exactly
    how many miles must you run to eventually break even?

    100 miles?
    1000 miles?
    10000 miles?

    ...wait. It can't be done. And this is what these idiots eventually find out and then find themselves out of business.
    They see the total dollar amount of the load and jump on it cause its CASH NOW.

    :biggrin_25524:

    ...this is simple math that appears to be beyond the realm of many truckers.
    If truckers KNEW the cost they need to get to even break even, these cheap rates would disappear as no one
    would haul for it.

    $1.21/mi....Seriously, who is kidding who here??
     
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  6. TruckerWife71

    TruckerWife71 Bobtail Member

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    AMEN! I couldn't reply to that question without cussing... so I opted out. :biggrin_25514:
     
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  7. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    Perfect example...I ''worked'' 9 long hours on the board YESTERDAY..This is what i landed...

    NY to Ind- 2.95 a mile 30,000 Lbs..

    Ind to NYC - 3.00 a mile and it is a load/reload at same dock back to Ind..10,000 lbs...3.00 bucks out and 3.00 bucks back..

    Ind to NY- 2.95 a mile back to NY...2,100 LBS....

    My week begins sunday night and ends with a delivery on Saturday Night in NY.Then i DH home 100 miles....
     
  8. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    DON'T GET ME GOING...:biggrin_25516:
    :biggrin_2559:
     
  9. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    Another thing to remember is that some areas pay less than others and you have to get the rate coming in, and count on a crappy rate coming out. The Northeast, Florida, Wyoming and Colorado are all examples of getting coming in to deadhead out and if you get a crappy load, you're making money. There are places to wait for a good load, and places you don't. That will be experience based on day of the week, season, etc.

    Something to remember as well, the trucking company/and or broker/agent make money even if you break even or haul for a loss.
     
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  10. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Doesn't matter what i consider cheap.

    In relation of one to the other, ch robinson gives me better rates. Cheap this week could be $2.10 compared to $2.37.

    What matters is the highest rate. And it's not from landstarve.
     
  11. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Ok...this is the opposite of CHEAP FREIGHT.

    I hope that explains the question several posts back...
     
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