Please Explain This To Me

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by BookingYou19, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    And just yesterday you were agreeing with me ? Even offered you a fix , for the weight issues. And it's not one truck , our company has not had but one truck since 1931. It's 1200 trucks on the road today. If a dropped stop was a 75 line item , then yes 75 should come off and affected miles. But if it did not have a declared value , who's to say what is fair value if any. Have not called our broker branch, to ask about any early claim. May be a produce charge? We had reffers in the past , but was for photo paper. Shipper required it stay at 40*. Never understood we get there and half of the receivers would put it in a 90* warehouse.
    You stay in the industry longer you will learn more. As we all do. Any day one does not learn something , they wasted a day. For two days you have insulted us and what we do. That is where the grow up statement came from, for that I am sorry .
    A truck getting to its receiver , gives everybody more options . I have done it many times, point out i m early, if they want it now, or any time till my appt time let me know. i can not start detention till 2 hrs after my appt. if night shift is slow its welcome. if busy see us in the AM. We have two customer that have funny rules . One has rule that you can not arrive more then 15 mins before appt time and 500$ fine for being 1 min late. Know this going in . Had 4 of us set for 2AM appts . All 4 of us met their requirements , guard stamped our paperwork time in. Supervisor pulls up at 0400 and tells us back in doors 2,4,6,8 . He did not like us pointing out if we had been late he wanted 2000$ to take us . I reminded him he was already into detention on all 4 loads! Other one is fully drop and hook , but only give you a 6 hr window. D and H could got there yesterday. Late time is its dock time. Sitting out side their fence or inside the fence for 24 hours , it's still in our trailer.
     
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  3. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    I got this the first time too, then he added detail. Maybe having been in this position, I can make the connection easier.

    Try this: he's talking about the leverage you have when changing terms on a load after the fact. You already know it's going to cost the carrier more than it's worth to turn around and unload/cancel. So you push an updated rate out there that still makes it worth continuing with, just not as profitably as it was in the first place.

    It'd be much simpler for someone to hold a gun to your head and simply take your wallet, versus all the negotiation and paperwork that reconstructs a done deal with more cost and consequently nets less profit.
     
  4. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    Thanks Red . I use this tablet , not having a real keyboard hurts me at times . Being right handed , the keys on the left third some times do not read my touch. Throw in auto correct. If I don't catch it it looks goofy. Run cash and carry , always have . This years truck order was 185 trucks. Got invoiced on 01/02 first day dealer was open , writing a check for 23.3 million takes the wind out of you. Don't care who you are. Buying fuel 2 tankers at a time just for the yards. 4 yards is 8 tankers a day, plus the fuel for the 60% of the trucks that will not see the yard that given day. I have a fair idea how the industry works.
    Red you have a good head for this! You will go far ( think you prob doing fine already) ! Booking for , time teaches us all everyday , some just have a head start. You will catch up, don't worry. Just need more days. But some of the most important things to learn are not in any book.
     
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  5. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    Thanks sdaniel. That means a lot. I wouldn't say doing fine. More like not bankrupt and holding. But a steady improvement since day 1 nonetheless. My hand cramps up these days writing a check for 23.3 dollars.

    The other thing is: you never know when those learning moments will come along. This sort of struck me this afternoon. In the span of about 15 minutes, I showed my son how to repair a set of cat's eyes tire pressure balancers, use an ohmmeter to diagnose a magnetic solenoid, and solder something. Pretty remarkable since when we're out on the trucks we only speak about every 2-3 days outside of emailing load paperwork back and forth. Before trucking, I was lucky to say hi once or twice a week.

    I got him out to show the cat's eyes repair. Real simple and easy to figure out, but something that takes care to change a 5¢ seal and not trash a $10 air hose end or the main piece in the middle that's about $50 for a new one. Also save time by having the stuff on the truck to do it on the spot versus just taking them off and waiting days or weeks until we're in the yard together for me to do it. The next two I just assumed he'd figured out on his own (he's 30), but hadn't so he asked.

    While I was out there, he drags out this hydraulic dump valve used on a low rider setup. Don't work. Quick lesson with the DVOM and now he knows that Ω is not the symbol for a horseshoe and what some of those mysterious other settings on the meter are used for. And that he has a dump valve with a shorted coil. He wanted to see how I solder wires, so I did a demo. You'd have thought I was David Copperfield doing a magic show when I got solder flowing up into a joint (solder follows heat). Even better when I showed him the technique that works on a circuit board also can join copper plumbing. I can't remember who showed me those things or why. I do remember thinking what a miracle solder climbing up a wire or into a pipe joint was though, and never would have figured it out alone.

    That stuff never gets old.
     
  6. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    Welding shop is where I learned soldering pipe joints, quickly we were up to building trailer mounted Bar-B-Q grills . Class built 5 that year , only buying the axles and tire/wheel ( most was junk yard pieces ) . Class made a dump truck , starting only with the base truck , and a rack of steel . We had to machine every thing (cylinder was fun) .
    But we are wasting booking you 's thread . Good night fellas.
     
  7. rollin coal

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    Discussing this with another TTR member the other day ago. I have this bad tendency to get all arrogant when I think I've figured something out and then learn something that really cuts me down to size and the realization that (as my grandfather used to say) son what you (or I) don't know would write a great big book. See it day after day and it'll give one pause to think, best to keep that mouth shut lol.
     
  8. dannythetrucker

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    I just don't see how you can possibly think it's okay to add stops like this after you issue a rate confirmation without the stops. Let alone think it should be done dirt cheap. And yes, $50 is dirt cheap for an additional stop. 8 miles away, huh ? In my experience 8 miles almost always turns into 12 with truck routes, moving around on location, etc... and that's one way. So the first problem we have is that "8 miles" could easily add 25 miles to my trip depending which direction it is. And this is not cruising down the interstate @ 65 miles, this is traffic lights, turns, etc... where I am burning more fuel and putting more wear and tear on my truck. I could easily burn an extra $30 in fuel making that extra pick.

    I'm going to spend an extra hour at best and likely 2 hours doing this, what if I am already pushing my HOS limits ? There's a lot of considerations here, and you seem to view it like stopping for a gallon of milk on your way home. Sorry, you really are showing you have no frame of reference or understanding of the realities of operating an 18-wheeler. I'm not convinced you are learning much either, you seem to be mining for info which supports what you want to believe.
     
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  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Good call Danny - we all fell for the oldest broker trick in the book "it's only 8 miles" lol
     
  10. BookingYou19

    BookingYou19 Light Load Member

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    Im sorry but there is no way you deduced all that from, "So some holds you at gun point for a day , that ok ?" There is just no way. Im sure he has done great things and is much wiser than me when it comes to this business. I just had no clue what he was refrencing or talking about, and then he told me he made perfect sense. Which i believed not to be true. If that is what he meant, that a TL is a TL then yes I would nhave to agree with him.
     
  11. BookingYou19

    BookingYou19 Light Load Member

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    I never once insulted what you do. I had different opinions on some things, and shared in agreement with others. I ru the majority of my lanes with rpoduce and sprinkle in fixture freight. Which is a major contributor to why a lot of the conversations were disagreeing since they were talking about tarped loads and flat beds.
     
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