Please help. Need advice with ongoing truck load issue

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Arturas88, May 20, 2017.

  1. Truth B Told

    Truth B Told Bobtail Member

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    Bummer! It's a tough scenario because you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you but at the same time is cost to be the boss-bills. Been running for over a decade and can tell you things happen that are not always in "our" favor, but look at it as a give and take game. This was your turn to give but you will get that 'hot' load to help with the pain.
     
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  3. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    I thought the same thing. To Arturas, we're on your side, we've all been there. It's tough learning these things by grabbing the hot end of the stick. Used to be, drivers talked to one another,,,in person, sitting at the coffee counter, and if someone hauled a bad load, even a stranger, we all knew about it. Now, nobody ( except here) gives a darn, and some, like the broker, might even laugh at you for doing this.( I can't believe we got rid of that buggy corn load, they say, really) Well, we're your friends here( think of it as the "new" coffee counter") and in the future, there's a reefer section here, just ask!!! Someone probably would have given you the whole scoop on hauling corn from Texas to Cal. ( or whatever) My advice, USE THIS SITE, and not after the fact, if you can. I'd have killed for a site like this 20 years ago. Fumigate it( yuk, no wonder corn upsets my gut) pay the $2 dollars and move on. Down the line, you'll get some decent load, that pays fantastic, and coupled to this load, you just about break even. Like I say, that's truckin'.
     
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  4. x1Heavy

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    Many of you made very good points.

    We do care (Who is this we?) but in business or involving high finance etc sometimes you get the bear other times it tears you up. Im having second thoughts about mentioning the concept of bypass one station for another.

    Believe it or not, in very large bulk facilites like elevators and silos etc there is a certain percentage of bugs that is part of the food we ultimately will eat at some point in the future. Cereal would be one example. Potatoes would be another. When you consider a whole field as far as the eye can see that has been fumingated with chemical war against bugs of potatoes, for about a week no human can go out onto that field because it's that dangerous.

    I think back to our backyard produce, tomatoes, onion, peppers whatever else that might get through the growing season. It is a battle against bugs and worms etc that want to get up on that nice plant and start munching. It's not all bad, we relied on other bugs like ladybugs in particular as a hunter killers of certain pests that have killed a whole plant box and everything in it. I think the ladybugs were instrumental in helping us have something to eat going into winter time. That is one example. Another would be working bees that showed up early when the plants flowered. We don't have as many we would like and think that could become a problem if it is not already a problem in big ag for those who are growing for millions of people here in the USA.

    Finally but not last, I point to the birds that show up when I pull off the interstate in Texas for example with literally what the birds would see as a fresh delivered food of bugs of all kinds in my radiator etc. They will absolutely fly to it and perch on it to chow down even if I lifted the hood to get at the oil etc during fueling. They will continue to eat.

    Anyhow, this post is not to bug anyone in particular but this whole thing has gotten buggy what with the foods we have to buy and consume at home. Some of it has been through alot before it reached our table.
     
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  5. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    To me, it is obvious that the broker wanted you to either go around the bug stations or go through one that was closed at the time of crossing. He was trying to salvage the load by dumping it illegally on the Cali market.

    Super Truckers would have understood this and would have gone around the bug station. A quality carrier would have refused. A noob didn't understand the predicament and hauled in good faith.

    Pay for the fumigation, and next time sit on that rejected load until they find a way to deal with it legally.
     
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  6. wichris

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  7. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    That's just silly. The broker specifically instructed him to go AROUND the bug station. The broker never mentioned fumigation or a fumigation account at another location. The broker didn't ask the OP to pay for the DIFFERENCE between this supposed contract rate for fumigation and the actual cost.

    As far as sitting on a load until it is legal? Are you really suggesting that pulling illegal loads (over weights, non-ag certified, bad securement, contraband, illegal refuse, etc, etc) should be hauled and delivered any time the broker changes his mind mid contract, laws be ######?

    The load was rejected, which ended the obligation of the OP under the transport contract, and put the broker in breach of contract. The broker was responsible for any and all additional costs incurred by the OP at reasonable rates. Including delivery to the dump, storage or food bank, or storage/detention costs from now until eternity. His problem.
     
  8. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Always someone else's fault. Even though the OP agreed to do what the broker wanted and did something different.
    And there was nothing about bugs until he was inspected at the ag station.
     
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  9. khan1122

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    A month before we loaded it corn from Florida to California took i10 when we get closer broker calls and said go to i40 ag inspection station instead of i10
    When I asked why is that he told me that i10 inspection station stop his previous loads
    That it will ruined the entire day
    I told him sorry can't go to i40 as I am on i10 that's your problem not mine
    If they stop us you will have to pay for every thing including lay over
    When we reach the station luckily there was nothing on the corn and we pass
    So the brokers has to pay
     
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  10. ZVar

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    The difference is you didn't have a contract to go I40, he did (well whatever alt route). The broker called and requested you to do what he wanted, but without a contract you could do it however you wanted.
    The op had a contract to go another way (we don't know why, so maybe it was or was not for illegal reasons.) Even if it was for illegal reasons he should have rejected the contract until he got one he liked.
     
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  11. TallJoe

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    At long last I can hear that those inspection stations are of any use at all. Even in the famous Steinbeck novel they did let a dead body to pass through on a wagon.
     
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