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Possible elimination of exhaust regulations.
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Coolbreezin, Aug 3, 2025 at 10:20 PM.
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That in the short to long term absolutely nothing will change. These companys have invested billions into emissions tech, most other modern countries in the world are still as strict or stricter and they make a fortune off costly emissions repairs. Not to mention trump wont be president forever. All it takes is a greeny cabnet getting in to reverse everything trump did.
All these companys arent going to just drop this tech and arent going to develop a single engine for a single market. They are going to keep pushing it as is for at least the next presidential cycle or two minimum. Likely more, and even then just start rebadgeing their euro engines for use here afterall the tech is paid for and if they dont gotta match the U.S emissions, just drop an engine from a diffrent market.
Sure it may allow for legal deletes but the companys will simply laugh the whole way to the bank as they void your warranty and keep refuseing service on altered vehicles to keep you in the fold. Wouldnt suprise me if they started designing them in a way that deleteing them.destroys the block just to keep up the emissions gravy train either.
TLDR pretty much nothing will change.Trucker61016, Numb, OLDSKOOLERnWV and 2 others Thank this. -
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The manufacturers will definitely keep their bottom line at the top of the list.
Glad I don’t have to fool with that mess, but sure feel for those that do….. -
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As I posted in the other thread, I will add this to the opening of this post - too many people in the yourtube world and online who make a living sensationalizing crap are, in many cases they are lying. In this case, they are leaving out a lot of details, like what Section 209 is about and what Endangerment Finding is, and why it is being recinded.
So here is my post from the "breaking news" thread.
Don't cheer yet, there are a lot of complicated issues that have to be addressed, and this only applies to new cars and trucks, but may not even involve HD trucks - class 7 or 8.
- it removes the waivers from California to have stricter emissions.
- it doesn't eliminate emissions systems.
- it eliminates the CO2 greenhouse gas reduction standards and will take it off the pollutants list
- it doesn't help in any way as TKG [the yourtube creator] has claimed; he has been wrong before.
Now that said, I have said this before and will say it again, we are a fractured industry, pretty ***** lazy one at that, because we can support a Bill that does work for us when it comes to emissions crap they put on the truck, but we do not even look at it as an industry.
That bill is S.711 - Transportation Freedom Act, which is pretty easy to understand. It eliminates the emissions regulations for the trucks, and allows us to delete the systems that make our lives a living hell. It allows US to decide if we want to or not. It is stuck in committee and needs to be shoved into Congress and voted on. We need it.
https://www.moreno.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/TFA-One-Pager-February-24.pdfD.Tibbitt Thanks this. -
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I have doubts CAT will return to producing highway truck engines. They made up less than 10% of CAT's total revenue. Now with manual transmissions being phased out, Caterpillar would likely have to develop an integrated powertrain option to have any hope at competing in the market. I also doubt they'd be torque monsters like they used to be since the trend is fuel economy now.
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Cat missed on their earnings due to tariff's. Expects robust 4th quarter. Stock down slightly.
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