Power steering issue.

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  1. Brokentrucks

    Brokentrucks Bobtail Member

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    2005 kenworth. 2 gear boxes, p/s pump and cooler.

    This all started with the p/s pump making noise, sounded like a pto. Do investigating and i find that in the resivor there is a screen on the bottom that is plugged. It looked like the inside of the tank the paint started coming off and clogged that screen causing the pump to starve.

    Drain all fluid.
    Cleaned inside of resivor.
    R&R pump.
    R&R filter.
    Filled new atf
    Bleed system and everything was good.

    Now its back again. No noise now but when the system gets up to temp the steering becomes hard, almost impossible to steering without the truck rolling. Steering doesnt become hard till a few hours of driving.

    Hooked up a pressure gauge between the pump and steering box. The pump is putting out 200 psi, when you try to turn the wheel pressure jumps to 1500 psi

    Any help guys or gals?
     
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  3. buddyd157

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    have you rechecked that filter screen again?

    my best guess would be more paint is clogging it.

    how did you bleed the system? did you lift the truck off the ground, with the engine running, and turn the wheel lock to lock several times?

    are you sure that ATF fluid is recommended by KW, and not specific power steering fluid?
     
  4. Brokentrucks

    Brokentrucks Bobtail Member

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    Yes rechecked the screen and found no issues.

    I am not 100% on the fluid. Im going to call them and found out
     
  5. Brokentrucks

    Brokentrucks Bobtail Member

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    Just called them and they said ATF
     
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  6. AModelCat

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    KW is typically ATF.

    Wondering if you've got some contamination blocking off the ports in the power steering box?
     
  7. Brokentrucks

    Brokentrucks Bobtail Member

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    I was thinking possibly a hose collapsed or i have an internal blockage somewhere...

    Would there be a way to flush the system?
     
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  9. buddyd157

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    there is a way to reverse flush, but you need some sort of machine to do that, as you would never be able to build up pressure by yourself.

    what you can try to do is (you will need a wet vac for this), is to drain out all the fluid (save what you can), and using a wet vac, attach it to one end of a hose and suck it out. do this for all the hoses you have, that you can easily disconnect.

    you may (i would think) be able to use the blower side of that vac and push out fluid as well from the pump and hoses.

    i'd not recommend an air hose such as from a shop air compressor, that may be too much air being forced into the system, and may blow things left and right, damaging many things as well. a shop vac has power, but not as much as 90 psi out of an air hose.

    a power flush would be cleaner and faster, ans safer

    maybe an oil change shop, that does ATF flushes can be of some help.

    other than all of this, then a trip to a truck repair shop would be your best bet.
     
  10. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    You can't test the steering pump free flowing like that, it's not a valid test. You need to load it or dead head the pump to relief pressure to make sure it is capable of the pressure and flow needed based on demand. Only do this with the proper equipment for your safety. You need a pressure and flow meter with a shutoff In line that is rated for say 5000psi.

    I would say you likely have a floaty or an object blocking flow somewhere in a line or fitting. Have you replaced all the hose assemblies yet? Check all the fittings at the pump and gear too. Make sure all the openings and ports are clear where every line attaches .This is where items will get cought. I have also seen hoses collapse inside especially at bends.
     
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