Powerpoint on the 11 & 14 hour

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    It's where you can extend your 14 hour clock and allow you to finish any of the 11 hours you did not get to complete. I have a "sticky" on split breaking, that should answer that question.

    If you have 8 hours in the SLEEPER you can extend your 14 hour rule, that's the only way to extend (or stop the clock, I hate that phrase cause the clock doesn't stop it keeps ticking) the 14 hour. You can only drive the hours you HAVE NOT driven out of your 11 (so take the driving hours prior to the 8 and subtract that from 11) that driving time must be done before the extended 14 hour. Does that help. Much more details into it though:biggrin_25525:
     
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  3. AJM

    AJM Bobtail Member

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    Would like very much any info I can get. I have no posts , until now, so I could not see the attachments.
     
  4. bor

    bor Light Load Member

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    This is great LOGS!!
    Thanks.
    You know what would be great?
    Do a full one to the 34 reset!!
    Im sure that would be too much work...But I thought I would suggest it.
    You did a really great job on the 11 14
    peace -
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  5. travelfraggle

    travelfraggle Light Load Member

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    I understand this well and use it but I was told by my old company you cant do this anymore. have'nt had to do it again yet but good to know I can.
     
  6. SafetyBabe

    SafetyBabe Bobtail Member

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    I think that Logs was right on regarding the prison comment, people have gone to prison for false logs, mostly trucking industry executives but also drivers involved in horrific accidents where they were found to be at fault for not following the HOS rules and driving exhausted, but this is rare.

    As the DOT favoring the trucking industry on audits, I almost fell off my chair, I have a client that was fined $27,000 for the HOS violations found on 1 driver out of a 10 driver operation. The driver was never fined, penalized or otherwise. He is an owner operator that did not know the rules had changed :biggrin_2554: (the audit took please earlier this year) it took me 3 classes to train this driver and I still found violations on his logs on my last audit.
     
  7. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    I have something on the 34 hour restart, but to make it clearer are you saying like do a log for 2 days and then do a 34 hour restart and the day coming back to work & show what the re-cap would look like? I am going to work on something like that anyhow so yeah I can, it will take time however :)>

    I always welcome ideas to help teach drivers:biggrin_25525:
     
  8. nodnarb22

    nodnarb22 Bobtail Member

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    putting my one post in to download this.
     
  9. LogsRus

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    The information on split breaking is current information. You can do it, although some companies do not want their drivers to split break (they lose in many situations by not teaching the drivers to split, my opinion only).

    You must follow your company policy, but DOT does allow you to split break still! The only difference is that

    1) A 2 hour break or more will NOT extend the 14 hour (only 8 hours in the sleeper will extend/stop the clok). The 2 hour break can be a combination of lines 1 & 2 as long as it's 2 hours consecutive & again the 2 hour break will NOT extend the 14 hour (so if the 2 hour or more break comes first you still must stop @ the end of your 14th hour and take a minimum of 8 hours in the sleeper & follow the split break rules after that)

    2) You must have @ least an 8 hour sleeper break and it MUST BE IN THE SLEEPER. A period of 8 hours or more in the sleeper will extend/stop the 14 hour clock.

    The 14 hour restarts @ the end of the previous break (see my sticky on Split breaking, it goes into detail how to do it from there).

    You should do as you are comfortable doing. Companies NOT allowing split breaking are hurting themselves on those loads that you can't make within 2- 4 hours cause you need a 10 hour break (when you could of split breaked to get the load there oin time :).

    Good luck, I hope this clarified for sure what I was trying to relatet to you :).

    Have a great night and keep them logs ucurrent .
     
  10. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    The first post was by me and it has a link to a power point that shows the 11 & 14 hour rule. If you can't or don't know how to do power point or can't open it then please ask me and I will be glad to help (others might now as well) this is in the sticky threads but I am trying to open it for the one's who stated they wanted it.
     
  11. Pur48Ted

    Pur48Ted Road Train Member

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    Sounds like a perpetual complainer. I wish you luck, in everything you do for three weeks....then quit so you can expose "the wrong doing".
     
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