Practical-HHG-Short Miles...The Scam On Truckers

My company pays me by the odometer they trust us to route ourselves. But I don't abuse trust me if I need to go to Walmart I go to wal Mart I don't go 50 miles out of the way to do it. Or run all kinds of impractical routes for extra money I will use an interstate over a back road when I can even if it is extra miles. But hey an extra 20 miles is 10 dollars or more to me.

 

No body is holding a gun to anyone's head to work @ Baldwin. No one is being forced to work/haul freight on "short" miles. We all have the same technology available to us, just use it!

 

When you make that first contact phone call to a company one of the first 3 questions is "How much per mile pay? less than $.30 and I'll be gone but you should be also!

2nd question; Do you use HHG, PC Miler (newest version) Rand or ODO and let them answer. IF they say HHG the next thing they would hear from me is thanks and click.

3rd depends but mine is "When do you pay and do you have direct deposit?"

If they started hearing more clicks after 2 minutes of phone time and they aren't filling seats then they might figure out that HHG is too old to be profitable to them any more the same with that ripoff pay of less than $.30 CPM as after a few too many clicks it will start to cut into profits and unless they are complete morons they'll figure it out!

The ONLY problem with this is too many hungry drivers will take their pathetic widdle job and keep losing money.

But any of you who think $.22 CPM is pay you need to take your arses out and beat your head against the sky as you take that stupid 1970s pay and you set the stage for that BFI as they will keep that bottom feeder pay and expect every one else to take it also!

Why do you people take that crap? The BOLD FACED LIE that you are all being fed that it's the economy is just BULL!

It had nothing to do with the pay rates of trucking! The rates are being hidden somewhere as in trucking because there is this again driver shortage that NEVER slowed down it was just brokers and trucking that make it seen that pay was down!
In the real world that would be the same as gouging after a disaster like stores in NYC and other towns tried to after idiots flew aircraft into buildings and started to jack gas and food prices up and they nearly got arrested for!

You all keep taking those jobs and you'll be kept at those rates till you die! Your cost of living didn't go down so why are these moron BFIs still scamming you with these pates and pay on routes?

Add to that insult and as you sit there watching the prices of everything go up trucking pay goes down. Go figure what ansd where the problem is. It's not from the high cost of shipping is it. Even with the fuel prices where they are (Thanks you morons in Ca with your push it on the rest of us CARB crapola!) it does not justify the cost increases in the grocery stores and gas pump!

Anyway, you took that pissant pay so stop complaing! At that rate how do you miss anything as you weren't getting anything to begin with except for a non lubed shaft job! As long as you take a job where you called to interview the company and yes you set the ground rules when you call then with "I want to save you and me some time and money so I'll ask you some questions before we do any names and fill in the blanks. This way if 'I' feel we will be a good match or not we can move on"

IF the out of work used car sales person called a recruiter doesn't want to go that route then you have your answer!

But WHY yake crap pay? Just because you are a rookie? OK then as a rookie stop tryoing to prove anything to them! No kidding! whats the difference of you being a rookie and being on time over some driver with 55 years and being late half the time with too man OS&Ds? NONE! That rookie or training pay is that BFI with their hand so far in your pocket they are tickling your teeth!

Stop taking these jobs and stop taking the ones that pay off those antique HHG Books!

 

Most of the folks who take 22 cpm jobs take them because it's better than no job, they don't drive for 22 cpm because they were lied to. Little reminder, not every driver has a spotless driving and criminal backgrounds. I don't know how one can blame them for taking whatever job they can to survive. Reminder #2, each and every of us can join 22cpm crowd any day.

 

"You don't expect to be paid odometer miles"...WHY ?? You DROVE them ! "Not fair to your company"...Pardon me, but HUH ??? We get paid ALL hub miles, every one of them, on mileage runs. 59.75 cpm. Doesn't matter whether I drove "extra" miles or not. You get what you are willing to accept. HHG miles, PC so called "practical" miles are all designed to steal your labor. And some people act glad to be ripped off like that. Stop accepting that crap.

 

Bulletproof but you accepted mileage pay scheme which is specifically "designed" to steal your labor. Actual cpms are irrelevant, if you are being paid 59.75 cpm, you are being robbed anyway. How come? Stop accepting that crap. Find company that pays for every minute of your work time and tell us all about it.

 

That's why you act like somebody and accept responsibility for your actions. Someone that runs down the road acting like a yahoo either ends up with a low paying job or a newspaper article. Some just don't get it. The way you act will result with what's in your wallet. Those type of people make it hard on the rest of us.

That's one reason truck drivers have a wide array of salaries. They'll make $22K all the way to $85K and more depending on the person and the company. No other job has that big of a spread.

I wouldn't accept a 34cpm job, let alone 22cpm. I made 30cpm in 1997. Inflation is about 3% a year. That boils down to almost 1cpm. Truckers are losing ground to the value of their work.

HHG varies and can be as much as a 10% difference from actual miles. That's just a slap in the face. But many companies will pass the buck down from the shipper.

That company can do a background check on me. But I'm gonna do one on them also. You just don't accept anything.

 

Huh ? (again..) We only get mileage for anything over 250 miles in one direction. When the truck stops we are on the clock. Anything under is all hourly..Umm and Krom, I retired from UPS which pretty much pays the same way on feeder or team bids, and I did quite well, thank you...I don't get the point of your post. It's in our contract, it works for us and we do pretty well..but .22 cpm..Come on..And in 3 years when this contract is up, we will be at 63.75 a mile..Same as Brown..But, I will be "re-retired" by then. I'd like to know too how the cpm paid is irrelevant. The point of the OP was the HHG guide and PC Miler and how it rips drivers off..

 

HHG was originally put in place to provide a consistent and uniform basis to charge rates for a load. Without it it is hard to quote a rate as several carriers may use several different methods.
The reason companies now use it, at least I think, is that too many drivers abuse hub miles by going the long way or a few extra miles to pad their paychecks.