Practical miles vs. Dispatch miles????

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by negativecold13, Mar 3, 2014.

  1. Wolfyinc

    Wolfyinc Road Train Member

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    sometimes it works out in my favor, a store I delivered to today actual miles 112, paid miles 123 and then I might have a store where its actual miles 170 and paid 160 but its the other way around mostly for me.
     
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  3. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    HUB miles average about 7-8% less than actual miles over time. Companies are getting sued over the practice and I hope it is discontinued soon.
     
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  4. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    Well, as of late I've noticed that the dispatched miles are much closer to the actual miles - for the most part.
    If I pick up in the same city as I delivered the paid miles will still be 0, even if it is across town.
    But the actual paid trip miles are getting very close to what I actually drive.
     
  5. TOMBSTONE1954

    TOMBSTONE1954 Bobtail Member

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    It's a way to screw you out of about 75 miles on a 1000 mile run. PERIOD!
     
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  6. x#1

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    ^correct which is why,overall,it is best to drive for a percentage,say 24-28% of the gross/fuel surcharge inclusive. true you may donate miles when you deadhead,but total compensation should be higher if the outfit you drive for keeps the deadhead to a minimum. just my opinion but i think it is worth consideration.
     
  7. MsJamie

    MsJamie Road Train Member

    Back in the good old days, when a "sleeper" meant you were carrying a pup tent and sleeping bag, Rand McNally published "The Official Transportation Mileage Guide", aka the HHG (Household Goods) Mileage Guide. It gave the shortest legal route to get from City A to City B. This has been updated over the years as new roads were built (and old ones closed), and also as trucks got bigger and heavier. This guide was how moving companies billed customers; hence, Household Goods. It was the shortest route, mainly so customers couldn't sue the moving companies for "padding" the mileage. These mileages are known as "HHG" miles, and are typically what driver pay is based on. After all, it's the basis for the customer billing.

    As our highway system developed, it often became faster to go a bit out of our way by taking a longer bypass route. (US-22 through Altoona, PA, I'm looking at you.) What used to take 30-45 minutes to take the main road through town now takes 5 minutes via the Interstate that goes around the town. Yes, it adds another 20%, but cuts the time tremendously. Unless you were heading into that town, it was practical to take the bypass and "eat" the extra mileage. Hence, the term "practical mileage". The problem is that these bypasses have to be factored in individually from the HHG mileage, so it hasn't been realistic (in the terms of the payroll manager's time) to calculate all these. Now, computer routing, like Google Maps and our beloved GPSes, will take these bypasses into account. Practical miles are pretty close to the actual miles you'd run if you didn't leave the highway.

    Then there are "hub miles". These are the actual miles that you've run, as (originally) read by a hub mounted odometer. These count *all* miles driven, including the ones to that great little diner you know of, five miles off the highway, that has the truck parking across the street.

    So, the TL/DR summary:

    HHG miles: The shortest route that it's legal for your truck to go.

    Practical miles: The most practical route (generally fastest) that you can legally take.

    Hub miles: The route you actually took.
     
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  8. Longarm

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    I think you mean HHMG. HUB miles are pulled directly from the truck's odometer.

    Just to avoid confusion.
     
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  9. negativecold13

    negativecold13 Medium Load Member

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    Sorry for the confusion Wolf; I put 20 as my experience in Logistics and Transportation while in the military. No OTR, except Korea, and some Germany, plenty experience driving long hours at a slow pace and no heat or ac in the truck. Thanks for the anwers, everyone.
     
  10. h11way

    h11way Light Load Member

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    my grand son is in logistics? seems like a variety of job's
     
  11. Wolfyinc

    Wolfyinc Road Train Member

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    clears it up a bit, there have been rookies who put more experience than they really have so I assumed.
     
  12. negativecold13

    negativecold13 Medium Load Member

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    I figure that. Just didn't feel I should put zero, on experience. I have had the weight of my load push my truck down a mountain road headed for a cliff. Was hauling tank rounds, and our trucks seldom ever got proper maintenance. Had to stand on some desks to get those above me to realize they weren't going to get any more rounds if we didn't get trucks fixed. It was a variety of jobs from driver to doing your own maintenance, managing a fleet, hauling fuel, and who knows what else. And managing a fleet was with at least 80% inexperienced drivers. The guys who weren't top choice tankers(M1Abrams) got shifted our way to fill drivers slots, half of them had displinary actions pending. It was crazy. No accidents, though I did have a guy dump a few hundred gallons of diesel on me.
     
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