Pre-emissions Truck Questions

I know my friend got taken to the cleaners, car wash for good measure, & then hung out to dry. I tried to warn him but a hard head makes a soft behind.

 

#1: Higher demand especially with older drivers, mostly O/O's that are familiar with them and can work on them. Most fleets, of any size will go with newer trucks, as younger drivers couldn't care less what's in front of them, making most older trucks attractive to older drivers that want to stay in it. Sellers generally get whatever they want.
#2: no, emission engines are much better today for general use, but older engines can last a lot longer, but won't get the fuel mileage. Couple mpg more adds up.
#3: Heaven help you no matter what truck you drive,,,,I've found very few times, does the rebuilt unit last as long as a factory engine did.

 

I would rather drive an old dog, over new unfounded hype.
When warranty is up on modern truck you can not afford the repair bills. Unless you own the repair shop.

 

A 2016 kw with ISX SRC system with auto.
. Motor grenaded it self at 260k miles. Shop inspected motor and found it a complete mess inside. Owner is a friend of mine, truck will need a new motor. Rebuild was not possible due to damage .

Why would a 2016 not make it to 300k or 500k. My truck 2005 made it to 1,030,000 before needing and getting an inframe?
Why is it in 11 yes newer motors are not lasting as long?

 

B50 life on most new trucks is 1 million miles. That translates to the manufacturers expect half of the engines they build to last 1 million miles without a major rebuild. That also means they expect he other half of them to need major attention before 1 million miles...

 

Of course old trucks will need attention more often than new ones, as every component has a service life, and the older truck is closer to needing parts replaced. The difference is that the cost of maintaining/repairing that older truck is generally going to be considerably less (especially if you do most/all of the work yourself) than if you were making payments on a brand new truck.

Not to mention the freedom having a paid-off truck affords. If you want to take a day/week/month off, insurance is really your only expense...which is generally less than it would be on a new truck, too. You don't have to worry about that truck note eating away at your savings while it's parked.

You're right, though...as long as you're working it, the truck note shouldn't be difficult to make. I just prefer NOT to have a truck note, even if that means being a little more vigilant with the maintenance schedule.

 

I seen the opposite, 2000 fl with Cummins disintegrating at 313k and putting a rod through the block. I had to pay for a new motor, the quality of the build was the problem. Since than I have had maybe five trucks that needed something major under 500k, most near 500k and nothing under 400k.

 

300-400-500,000 is a looong way from 1 mill is what I don't get. 600-700-800 I could understand.

 

97-07 isn't what i would consider pre emissions id consider 02 engine year and older pre emissions. as they have no add on emmissions control devices such as egr ect. 06 engine year and older are pre dpf.

first off i think 80k on a truck over 10 years old is insane. and yes i get the appeal of them. i run a model year 2000 built in 99. it is a good truck in good shape and i would not want to trade it for a new truck. but older trucks require upkeep. its hard to determine the condition of every component on a truck before purchasing. a truck of that age i would expect to put 20k into it in the first year getting everything up to snuff. so i would consider a 80k older truck a $100k dollar truck. might as well buy new at that point.

value of a in frame? if it was very recent, maybe half the invoice on the repair if well documented and work completed by a reliable source.

as far as who is buying these trucks i would suspect mostly o/o maybe a few small fleets (under 5-10 trucks) local trucking company's gravel haulers and farmers ect.

 

Totally agree the peace of mind on no truck payment & to lift the hood and know on the electrical side its only a handful of sensors that are easy to diagnose where the problem is. All technology is not worth the headaches it brings don't over think it. My wife's Mercedes has 2 cam sensors per cam with magnets a waste of money for me not the parts department.
I can take my time and replace from front to back on my 1999 KW & it won't be 100k+ . I like the new smell & look of a new truck but I'll leave the payment to the deep pocket boys