I just got off the phone with the recruiter and she brought up a point a never even thought of. I'm trying to figure out when to go to orientation, and she said, "don't forget the holidays"
1) Is it even possible to think about being home for christmas? Isn't that a busy time for freight or does it die down during those 2-3 days?
2) Wouldn't it really depend on my trainer at that point? I know the rcuiter said I would be home after 6 weeks then 4 weeks after that. I also know, not to believe her. So how would I go about trying to plan this when we are only 16 weeks away?
Prime in the NE
Discussion in 'Prime' started by Optimus, Aug 29, 2010.
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Well, there's freight to be pulled even during the holidays. Remember the recent one? Got a really good rate out of WA for some FL-bound freight last Saturday. So you can run if you choose (a good plan) and take your time off when the freight isn't as good.
1. Company drivers are usually given the choice of Thanksgiving, Christmas or New Years' Day. Guaranteed one of the three. My FM always managed to get me home for both Thanksgiving (the one I chose) and Christmas. And yeah, its busy... especially with the massive decrease in the number of drivers available during the holidays.
2. Yes it will. If holidays are going to be REALLY important to you (more important than the career you are just starting) then you need to discuss that up front before you get on the truck. Bet that doesn't get you many points. If your trainer happens to live in the area you live in and is going home for the holidays - well, you're "In Like Flint," as they used to say. The breaks that your recruiter talked about are at a natural pause in the training cycle (at 6 weeks you should have a shiney, new CDL), etc.
As far as the "don't believe a recruiter" part is concerned...
First it's their job to sell the company to prospective recruits. I'd say that job probably sucks. I'd also say far too many people read exactly what they WANT to hear into the answers they get, vs what they're being told. My recruiter was very up-front, and I felt she was truthful. I never felt "lied" to, but then again I understand how things work and don't have some teenager's view of the world - black/white version of how things work. Recruiters aren't in charge of the operational side of ANY trucking company, and can only offer what they're allowed to offer. If the freight doesn't exactly work out the way you want it to in order to make YOUR schedule for hometime work, well... that's just the way it is.
Hometime during training will depend on your progress, the trainer you get assigned to, the freight that exists at that time, etc. Everybody involved will do the best they can to get you home when you need to be there. It doesn't always work. Then again, in my time at Prime, I've only been late for requested hometime once - by one day due to available freight. A couple of years ago, they deadheaded me bobtail 250 miles to get home for a holiday - at the company's expense. The "naysayers" can write all the trash they want to about this company, but I'll say that's beyond fair. I'll also guess that many carriers would say tough... you can sit at the truckstop until we get something for you to pull.
I trained across the holidays, and it probably stretched my training time out - my trainer also spent a lot of time at home and with his ex's. He also was very fair, and got me a motel room when we layed over while he played. Not all trainers are that fair. He wanted to be home for Thanksgiving and Christmas, lived 10 miles from where I did, so it worked out. In other cases, they will get a load that goes near to where you live - you may have to either travel some, or have someone pick you up to make it work - then get arranged to be picked up again afterwords. Other cases, I've heard some trainers (aka #######es) took the trainee home, and told him to find another trainer. I would say, be hopeful - it will probably work out. If it doesn't this year - its an odd year in your new career because you're training.
My real advice is to put your new career first, and worry about a "perfect holiday season" another year. Unless of course, trucking is a stop-gap endeavor for you... and you aren't serious about it. If that's the case, you probably shouldn't step up in the first place. -
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And if you don't think that particular sentiment (Company first... Your entire life doesn't really matter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) isn't true outside of the transportation industry, I invite you to try employment anywhere in this society. Unfortunately, it's the predominant way things work. Ask the folks who take home office work nightly, and are available for the boss's email 24/7. Actually, even in trucking, we have it better than that. -
Thanks alot IP, that one REALLY helped. As I've said before, this isn't my first rodeo. I know how the world spins, which is why I decided to ask that question on here instead of at the orientation. I will not go in the door asking about my time off, that NEVER looks good, and I've seen guys black balled because of it.
In my previous job(a paper mill), we shutdown for the 10 holidays but my job required me to be there for the maintenance asspect. Granted we got triple time for it, but still..... The only one I was guaranteed was Christmas. So, yeah, that has become a BIG holiday for my wife and kids.
Now, wifey and I understand that this year will be different just because of the training part of it. And if push comes to shove, then "the job" would have to come first. In this economy I would stupid to turn this opportunity down, and if I have to sacrifice the holidays to support my family, then that is exactly what I intend to do. There will be more Christmas' later.
However, if I could plan the right week to start that would make it most feasable for the opportunity to be home, then I will. At least that way I can allow it to play itself out, and not even have to bring up until I'm with my trainer. I think that that is the best situation I can offer to my family, that way either way it will work out in the end.
Again, thanks for all your help IP. You have made this alot easier to make an informed decision. It's just to bad your not training anymore, seems like you'd be good -
Actually, I never have trained. Don't feel as though my experience level is where I want it to be for that, and I value my privacy. I may in the future - I've done technical training in the Air Force, taught electronics for awhile commercially, and there is an economic aspect for me to consider now. Also, I need a specific, workable plan for dealing with the bodies...
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I also thought that you didn't have a choice but to technical train in the AF. Ya know, seein' as how theres no PT or anything else like being in the real military
sorry, could resist, been here for a month now, and that was my first chance to bust yer b--ls -
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The other half started mid October and that had him training right through the holidays and winter. Before he left, we talked about him staying out as long as possible. His trainer planned 4 days of home time for Christmas. After being dropped off for his Christmas break, his trainer called him and told him that he was putting the truck in the shop and they couldn't get to it till after Christmas, when their home time was supposed to be up. Well, the shop managed to mess the truck up and it wouldn't run. After being home two weeks, for what was supposed to be 4 days home time, other half found another trainer because he wasn't puttin' the miles behind him sittin' at home. His first trainer ended up being home another week.
Through all of his training, the other half only had one home time break.ironpony Thanks this. -
another bad idea is you and your trainer take home time at same time,make sure you live fairly close together and not him in the east a you in the midwest like I did.It was two weeks before we were back out on the road again making money.sometimes I am just not too bright!My fm said I could have got with another trainer but I was getting along with this so well I didnt want tip over the apple cart. but lesson learned on my part.
Optimus Thanks this.
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