Prime lease trainers forced to pay their trainees & are given $1.50 a mile loads

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  1. Cat sdp

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    Wonder about the student’s social security and Medicare withholding? And workers comp
     
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  3. mjd4277

    mjd4277 Road Train Member

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    Western Express has been doing this to drivers for well over a decade-minus making the driver trainer pay the trainee!
    Still,it looks like Prime is doing its drivers dirty!
     
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  4. wifi_guru

    wifi_guru Medium Load Member

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    i remember england doing this to drivers and starving em out as well as werner and swift
     
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  5. Long FLD

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    That’s what I’m saying. He wants the benefit of team miles, he made that clear when he was fine with the first person because he took $36k to the house for 6 weeks, but wanted Prime to pay the student. And how does anyone force an independent contractor to do anything? Grow a sack and tell them no. There’s no way I’d let w trainee drive my truck. This guy probably didn’t have two nickels to rub together but wanted to play owner operator abs was attracted to the thought of the extra money from teaming. And he was ok with everything until he wasn’t. Now it’s all Prime’s fault because nobody takes responsibility for their own actions anymore.
     
  6. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Crazy how Prime doesn't seem concerned about a nuclear verdict maybe coming from this sort of situation. I'm not pro-regulatory but there's some things that need to be regulated out of existence predatory truck leasing ought to be at the top of that list. I've always said these sort of shenanigans allow companies like Prime to more readily and easily undercut their competitors on rates. They can load the junk rates up on suckers they have leased while the company's trucks haul the good stuff. Allows them to grab market share that ordinarily they wouldn't otherwise.
     
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  7. Long FLD

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    Where do you draw the line as far as government regulations that protect people from their own poor decisions?
     
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  8. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I don't think so much to protect people from dumb decisions as it is to prevent business practices that allow them to undercut legit rates. They artificially lower the ceiling on rates. So the competition that doesn't stoop to this level can't compete.
     
  9. Knightcrawler

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    I dont get this guy... (note: I would have quit on every point here)

    He whines that he was broke down for a month and doesnt know how he is going to make ends meet (maybe go to WORK for someone else?)

    Then he has to become a trainer (umm, if its YOUR truck maybe grow some balls and tell them no, I dont want someone Im not related to in MY truck while Im asleep? Dont like it? Tough ####) but he makes 35k so maybe this aint so bad.

    Then a guy has an accident while he is sleeping (exactly why I would NEVER run teams with anyone other than my wife) that he has to pay the deductible on (YOUR guy driving YOUR trailer, YOUR problem!).

    Then you have the guys pay taken out of your settlement and he sometimes makes more than you (Huh?).

    Next you HAVE TO train someone from the permit stage (how do you give someone 120 hours of classroom rolling down the road?) and he AGREES to it (now granted, since he is LP with Prime, sooo....)

    Been home for 8 hours so far this calendar year, cant afford to go home (mabe QUIT and get a REAL JOB?)

    $12-1300 a week for a truck at Prime (I got a custom ordered Western Star 4 years ago and my truck payments are around $500 a week) AND you dont even get to keep the truck?

    He had 3 trucks with Prime and they take out $$$ for "damage and repairs". Why? They are just going to SELL the truck anyway, they arent going to repair it...

    $2k for tires after 2 months they charged him?

    So I would have quit this company AT LEAST 9 times before this guy told them to screw off.
     
  10. rollin coal

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    And maybe even a bigger issue is the misclassification of this guy. Clearly he's an employee and Prime isnt paying employer taxes on him. I wonder if the trainee is also missclassified?
     
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  11. Long FLD

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    It’s his own fault he’s misclassified. He could’ve said no but didn’t. He either didn’t have the backbone or the money to stand up to them when they said he had to train.

    Just like saying they forced him to leave after he was home a week. They probably just wanted their payments so he had to work instead of just paying what would be owed for his weekly payments.

    I don’t have sympathy for people who make poor choices on their own free will.
     
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