Prime Tanker Experience So Far...
Discussion in 'Prime' started by GunMetal345, Apr 7, 2013.
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Well... according to the losers in the truck stop, NO ONE can make a profit running solo. TruckerDawg does get some strange looks when he's driving!
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TruckerDawg does get some strange looks when he's driving!

You need to get him the fingerless driving gloves , the chain drive wallet , vest , jogging pants , 1 size fits all tshirt @ LOSERS R US clothing emporium.
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Correct me if im wrong. I'm recalling a conversation with a tanker.
Whats the deal on idling? Aren't there some loads that have to maintain a particular temp, and only tractor engine idling will maintain that. I think he said the APU doesn't generate the heat needed. I think the guy said he had to idle at 1300 rpm in the winter on those loads.
Does the load revenue reflect that extra cost. Is there some sort of accessorial pay to the load for added fuel expense, or do you know if that's just built into the rate.
Again I maybe poorly recalling the conversation, but this question has been on my mind since you mentioned your trainers lackadaisical approach to fuel economy. -
We haul a lot of oils that are basically margarine and turn solid at room temp. On those loads you have to run in-transit heat lines, which circulate the trucks heated antifreeze through heat lines on the tank. You have to idle these loads during winter when it's cold outside. You don't have to idle @1300 rpm, the only time you need to idle with higher rpm's is when pumping, and that's supposed to be done @900 rpm.
There's no sort of compensation for burning extra fuel. Lease drivers get 70% of what's billed to the customer and company drivers aren't paying for fuel. You can get by overnight without idling when it's warm out.briarhopper Thanks this. -
You have to run the engine to pump. This is when the engine is going between 800 and 1300 rpms. The more rpms the faster the pump. I always set it to 900 when I do it. In this last few weeks we have not had one load that needed to be idled to keep it liquid.
The percentage for tanker division is 71% now and the drivers say they get a little more fuel sercharge but I haven't been able to confirm that yet.
I think everyone would agree that you shouldn't idle while waiting to check in, while you're walking around, when you get out the truck to handle any others business or just because you don't feel like punching in the start code. In my mind the truck should not be running unless you're driving or using it for work.
My trainer called me a Fuel Nazi at first but I believe he can see the difference in his settlements now and has even picked up some of my habits. -
It'll be easy enough for you to confirm the fuel surcharge rates from your settlement... make sure you opt for the "basic accounting service" that breaks down your settlements. The $21.75 a week you pay for that is well worth the savings in your time, and the elimination of that PITA task in your life needed to generate the data it provides.
If you don't see it in there, it's quite possible it's already built into the rate that the load pays.GunMetal345 Thanks this. -
Thanks IP. I see it in his messages. They send a per mile one every now and then. He deletes those. Last one I saw was $0.38 per mile. I used that message to explain that the higher his mpg the less fuel cost and that idleing gets 0 mpg.
I plan on using the accounting service and using ProfitGauges to keep records myself. Tanker gets a ton of high profit loads from what I've seen so far. At 8mpg and low idle I feel I can make a killing in tanker division. Best I've got is 8.25 in my trainers truck. My lowest was 7.2. I was doing 60 through the mountains then.
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That's standard FSC rate- your in-transit heat cost is built into tbe linehaul rate. You're listening to Kevin Rutherford then?
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I don't know who that is but I'm going to look him up. I find my information from all over though. This forum, YouTube, Prime and my experience from the last time I leased. Back then I was efficient enough to turn a profit on the $1.25 a mile robbery leases back in the day. It just wasn't enough profit. $300 to $700 solo a week. It was much better when I was training but the were slow to give trainees. Your lease thread was a big help in my deciding to go with Prime IP.
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