Pro's and Con's of Super Singles

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Blackducati750, May 29, 2009.

  1. Gasienica

    Gasienica Heavy Load Member

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    Thinner tire cuts threw snow and rain better. Proven fact. More surface area under between tire and road.

    Go do this test on your car or pick up if you don't believe. Get same size rims on but on one put a 305 wide tire and rims to match the width then on the other set of 4 put a 195 wide tire. See what gets you up your driveway.

    Another example. Skis and snow boards. What is better do go down the side of a fresh morning powered mountain run? A snow board or a set of skis? A snow board right. The board stays above snow while skis sink threw unless you get powder skis which are thicker to cover more surface are so they don't sink as much.

    Understand me?
     
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  3. Axelis

    Axelis Bobtail Member

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    I've read through most of this thread and I have one comment and one question:

    Comment: When I think of these "super single" tires, especially after reading some of the rain and snow incidents here, one word comes to mind: Hydroplane.

    Question: What effect, if any, does changing form steel or aluminum duals to super singles have on GVWR?
     
  4. JimTheHut

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    I had a blow out...scared the you know what out of me! lol
     
  5. Polarbear

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    I am not disputing that, but the brand, compound, and tread of the tire combined with the weight of the vehicle are completely different than the two examples you are using. Skis versus snowboard and a 200 lb. person and a 4x4 pickup that maybe weighs 3/4 of a ton with wide tires on versus small tires.

    I imagine if I inflated those wide tires to where they had a smaller tire patch because they are so huge you would get the same effect as if I had smaller tires, but more tire patch hitting the road combined with the type of tread and a firmer or softer compound would have an effect.

    I encourage you to go to the Michelin website and look at the experiments that they have done as well as read the numerous scientific studies and road tests that they have performed with small fleets.
     
  6. Gasienica

    Gasienica Heavy Load Member

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    I say sit behind the wheel of a truck with super singles and go threw a wyoming snow covered highway then do the same run with duals. Tell me what you'll fell more comfortable in.

    Even try that expiriment threw Nebraska in pouring rain storm. Let me know how you feel. Just saying try it out, no arguments.

    Lots of things look good on paper when you read about it but until you try from personal experience you might change your mind and realize what they have wrote on that paper with their stats and test is as valuable as the toilet paper you just used to wipe your ###.

    Doesn't matter if its a 200 lbs person or a semi truck physics is still physics. If you drop a loaded semi from a sky scraper and a person they both fall at the same rate of speed 10 meters per second. Same goes for surface area.
     
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  7. king Q

    king Q Road Train Member

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    The only time that theory differs from reality is when assumptions are made and not all variables and or permutations factored in.
    Basically like the statement about the semi and the person falling at the same speed if dropped off a sky scraper. A big omission in that theory is that the difference in the wind resistance/mass will cause them to drop at different speeds.Just like the guy with the 10lbs parachute will also drop at a different speed.
     
  8. Polarbear

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    I am posting after driving through Wyoming the snow and rain in Nebraska with very light loads over the winter. I never had an issue with them. I would trust them anywhere.
     
  9. Gasienica

    Gasienica Heavy Load Member

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    LMAO!.............

    Ill use them to cross lakes and oceans as flotation devices.
     
  10. ironpony

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    Last year on a trip up to St. Albans VT, got caught in a spring snowstorm that dumped 3 feet in 24 hours... starting with rain at the bottom of the hills. I was empty, wide singles on the drives and tandems. The guys with duals who passed me in the rain were all stuck in snow or jack-knifed well before I got up to St. Albans. Two trucks with duals had to chain-up to get into the loading dock. I made it all the way up on my wide singles, and got into the dock without chaining.

    So... laugh about 'em, tell me stories about how I'll be sorry, but I'm laughing all the way to the bank with the fuel savings.
     
  11. Gasienica

    Gasienica Heavy Load Member

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    I see it differently. Seeing everyone with ss pulling over as soon as it starts snowing heavy and if it starts raining cats and dogs as I keep rolling with my super inefficient duals.

    I have both as my duals are on the truck and trailer now and the ss sit at home in the garage. Havent see any mpg improvements between the 2 only thing I noticed is a smother ride somewhat. So far I like running the duals in summer and I'll try putting the snow boards on before winter and see how they do again.
     
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