"Protect from freezing" dry van experiences.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by TallJoe, Feb 17, 2019.

  1. Snow Monster

    Snow Monster Medium Load Member

    Feb 9, 2019
    This is like what we used in the 70's to haul freight in dry vans up north in Manitoba where -25º to -45º is the norm, were a lighter duty and had wheels on them.
    (these are likely for shipping containers)
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  3. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

    Apr 12, 2016
    I was wondering how dumb an idea would be to use these heating jets in a pinch.


    Also, if the load is sealed, would the jet at the bottom of the trailer be any effective at all? Could they set the trailer on fire? They are not like flame throwers, are they? LOL

    On the serious note, having read some online articles, "Protect from freezing" on the BOL means what it says. You must not allow the product hauled to freeze at all. If it does, then the receiver, will have the grounds to reject the product and the shipper, thanks to their "protect from freezing" note, will have a successful claim against the carrier's cargo insurance. Despite the fact, that they had very well known about freezing risks when they shipped the product on a van.
    They (receivers) may give a blind eye, if beverages and some other products half freeze and they are not compromised after they thaw (such as water) but it is at their discretion to determine that.

    The very fact, they they load it on your trailer with just a say "Don't you worry, we ship dozen of these every day on vans like yours, never had problems" means nothing other than..."just take it, if it freezes then it is on your cargo insurance" . So if you take a load for which the BOL says clearly "Protect from freezing" on a dry van and the temps are low, then all you can do is to hope for the best.

    If you want to by indemnified from any fault, then the note "protect from freezing" must not be present on the BOL.
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2020
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  4. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

    Mar 5, 2016
    White County, Arkansas
    The heat cannons are crazy strong. The ones Ive seen used in several shops in extreme situations will thaw out a tractor in a period of time from 30 feet.
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  5. Snow Monster

    Snow Monster Medium Load Member

    Feb 9, 2019
    Probably not a good idea I'm thinking.

    If the customer has a load they want protected they should specify a reefer or heated trailer to haul the load, or the carrier should provide a safe propane powered space heater to get the job done.
  6. shatteredsquare

    shatteredsquare Road Train Member

    May 23, 2014
    middle dirt
    bills said protect from freezing, didn't saying anything about not using fire :book:
  7. Buckeye 60

    Buckeye 60 Road Train Member

    Apr 19, 2018
    those are good to direct under your engine to thaw you out but will catch your load on fire besides the fumes in a trailer or wood floor ..... they have a 2 burner that connects on a propane tank like from a grill i have used mine on a box truck overnight for produce k1 heaters maybe but the fumes will kill you .....either way leave a vent open or a door cracked for fresh air
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