"Protect from freezing" dry van experiences.

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  1. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    What I hate myself for is the fact I that wanted to stay way from such loads but such loads keep finding me.
     
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  3. TallJoe

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    That's actually good point. To write a little indemnification clause....if they dont like then please offload the trailer.
    Wish I thought about it at the time. Thanks for the useful idea. Did you idle the truck at that time to protect it from freezing?
     
  4. TallJoe

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    All accepted.
    Upon delivery, it was hell of a snow here in IL and I did not hop in to see if it froze or not.
    I was too numb after fighting blizzard to care anymore. They took it all without noting anything on the BOL.
    I noticed the juice jugs were enveloped in thick cardboard boxes.
    Who knows, maybe they throw some additional ingredient to the juice to prevent it from freezing too.
    It may be true that liquid products like that will not freeze overnight, but if they do, it is on you.

    I am going to buy a remote temp sensor and make some testing of what the inside temp readings are, depending on ambient temperature when the trailer is loaded and empty. I'll post the results here.

    Next time, if a load like that finds me, I'll note on the BOL:
    "Carrier will deliver ASAP without shutting off motor but will not accept liability, if the product freezes"
     
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  5. D.Tibbitt

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    How does the truck idling keep trailer from freezing. That makes no sense
     
  6. TallJoe

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    It transmits vibrations over to the trailer that stir up the liquid. Who knows how effective that is...? Probably not too much.
     
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    That dosant make sense either. Put a water bottle on the floor of ur truck when idling and the liquid doesnt move. I think u guys is gone crazy lol that was a great idea with the hot sauce on the catwalk and glad ya got it delivered without issues.
     
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  8. PE_T

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    I think it depends on the truck. Older trucks are very loud when idling, and it’s probably shaking the truck a little. On my 2014 Freightliner, that wouldn’t work. I’ve noticed if I idle my truck at 900 rpm for 30 minutes, the engine becomes even quieter after about 10-20 minutes. It’s the same as if you drive for hours, and then stop and idle the truck. Not much noise.
     
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  9. TallJoe

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    I did search some sites for cargo claims due to product freezing but did not find anything about dry vans, only reefers that froze produce.
    Maybe, the problem does not even exist.
     
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  10. PE_T

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    I think the broker is probably right in that the product won’t freeze into a hard block of ice and rupture the container, unless you drop the trailer in ND for a few days. Leave a water bottle outside to see how much it ices.
     
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    I have not had too much trouble in dry van, I did not get into areas with that kind of cold or products with them. With my luck my reefer would be heating product to protect it during winter when it gets cold enough. Paint comes to mind. (That was interesting, getting the diamonds off were a pain)

    Beer would be the closest. And it's usually delivered overnight next day anyway before it really had a chance to get cold enough to be a problem.

    However my loads were generally non food items. Hardwood furniture comes to mind from Ethan Allen, loaded to the max in the box which is good for winter. Or auto parts which are really hot and I don't particularly enjoy those. Probably because the dock foreman is super anal about those #### things. The last one harped over one freaking inch gap on one corner of the trailer. I hope he chokes on those parts.

    The other factor was some winters I am under dispatch a certain way. One year I stayed on I-10 for almost 6 months for one entire winter. That had to stop when the tractor (A volvo) accumulated enough fix it items to need a company shop for a weekend to fix everything. There are some things you do not want a TA to fuss with. It will only make it worse.
     
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