Pulling a recreational trailer with my Truck?

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  1. Gumper

    Gumper Road Train Member

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    I’m looking for a 48’ car trailer with living quarters to pull with my semi during racing season. Essentially I’d unhook from the flatbed after work, hitch up to the race trailer and take off for the weekend. It would most likely be a gooseneck trailer instead of a full size van. What do I have to do so I can avoid getting harassed by the DOT while doing this? Figured some “Not for hire” stickers on the trailer would about cover me unless some rover really wanted to cause me trouble. Will I have to pay IFTA taxes on these personal miles? Assumed they would be considered exempt since mileage I’d be driving aren’t used in interstate commerce.
     
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    I don't think it works that way. I think you will be considered for hire while pulling the race care trailer.
     
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  4. Gumper

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    Even though it’s essentially an RV with my own personal equipment not used for making money?
     
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    The RV/race car trailer isn't the issue. Pulling it with the same truck you pull freight with is the issue. It's a commercial for hire rig, you can't make it a toy hauler for the weekend then go back trucking on Monday.
     
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  6. Ridgeline

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    It is a commercial vehicle and always will be. You will have to log.

    Get a pickup and pull it with that.
     
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    Will you be racing where prize money is offered? If so it's 100% a cmv move, even for yourself.

    Basically if prize money is offered you treat it like any move you would do for a broker. If not all you have to worry about are the scale houses based on weight instead of being a cmv.

    Here is guidance:
    Question 21: Does the exemption in §390.3(f)(3) for the "occasional transportation of personal property by individuals not for compensation nor in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise" apply to persons who occasionally use CMVs to transport cars, boats, horses, etc., to races, tournaments, shows or similar events, even if prize money is offered at these events?

    Guidance: The exemption would apply to this kind of transportation, provided: (1) The underlying activities are not undertaken for profit, i.e., (a) prize money is declared as ordinary income for tax purposes, and (b) the cost of the underlying activities is not deducted as a business expense for tax purposes; and, where relevant; (2) corporate sponsorship is not involved. Drivers must confer with their State of licensure to determine the licensing provisions to which they are subject.
     
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  8. DSK333

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    Do it. As long as it's for personal use (no revenue, nor business purposes) and you're not for hire you'll be fine. Hell, you could even use personal conveyance if you really wanted to. Using a gooseneck might help you plead your case if you're held up by DOT too. I would still report the IFTA miles though even though you could probably make a case to not pay those too if you were pressed.
     
  9. Gumper

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    It looks like I would fall under those exemptions. It’s personal income that is taxed, and I do not sponsor my racing.
     
  10. Gumper

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    I want to use the semi so I could sell the truck to get out from under a vehicle payment. It’d also be nice to have the extra bunk beds in the truck for the kids to sleep in. I don’t want to have a dually pickup for a 48’ trailer which could still be considered a commercial vehicle.
     
  11. terryt

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    You can't do that with an IRP plate we have people with pulling tractors that use semi's and 53 foot trailer and they have RV plates so it not commercial. Only then is it a private coach that the law here in Michigan but each state has different rules or laws. These three men I know travel all over go in scales and never get stopped They have private coach not for hire on the sleeper.
     
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