Putting $$$ into an old truck vs. depreciation on a new one

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  1. Freightlinerbob

    Freightlinerbob Road Train Member

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    Suppose:
    I'm looking at a possible major investment needed on my old shaker. Crate motor, installed with a new clutch, rad, possible (since its out already) refurbished trans, motor mounts etc. etc.

    Buying a newer used truck does not appeal to me. Too many unknowns. Besides, I already have a well maintained used truck.

    I could easily spend twice what the truck is worth by fixing it and have 3/300,000 warranty much like a new one and about a 2 year commitment to pay for it. If I go this route my truck won't be worth anywhere near what I invested in it. So there is risk in that.

    Or I can start all over again and buy a new one. But in 2 years it will depreciate more than the investment in the old truck and I'll pay way more interest in the process. I'll likely be upside down on it for the first 2 years as well.
    There is no guarantee the new one will be as trouble free as the present truck has been and the 2013&14 trucks on our fleet get worse MPG than mine gets. It's also at least a 4 year commitment.

    Your thoughts?
     
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  3. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    have you looked at an amortization schedule to see what the interest payments will be?

    I am guessing you'll be financing $90,000 or better for 84 months at about 9% interest. (seems to be the going rates now)

    http://www.amortization-calc.com/#loan-90000-7-9-7-2013-2

    $1,448.02 Monthly Principal & Interest
    $121,633.43 Total of 84 Payments
    $31,633.43 Total Interest Paid
    Jun, 2020 Pay-off Date

    The only part that is really deductible is the interest, but you can depreciate the $90,000.

    The $30,000 to do the work you are talking is a capitol expense and pretty much expensed out when you perform the work.

    If the body is generally in good enough shape to continue to use, then it would make sense to me to update the drive-line as you are talking.


    I'd take it to the shop, take momma and go to the bahama's or Hawaii for some much needed R&R and come back to a "new" truck.
     
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  4. Freightlinerbob

    Freightlinerbob Road Train Member

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    I was thinking 48 months not 84. Was that a typo?

    Yes definitely on vacation while the truck is down.

    In Canada a large expense like this is seen as an improvement and CRA does not usually allow the entire amount to be expensed in one year. Bit that's OK because I couldn't pay for the whole thing in one year either.
     
  5. Oscar the KW

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    Seven years at 9% interest? Who in their right mind would do that? I would do 5 years at 7% or less, maybe.
     
  6. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    I agree. Had a dealer offer it to me on a new truck. Just saying.


    Follow the link and see the difference terms and amounts make.

    It's just one scenario that seems common from dealers.
     
  7. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Any idea what the insurance cost difference is on a new, expensive truck?
     
  8. Oscar the KW

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    I have an app on my phone that does amortization schedules. With the price of new trucks it doesn't surprise me that they are writing 84 month loans.
     
  9. Freightlinerbob

    Freightlinerbob Road Train Member

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    That's another cost to consider for sure.
     
  10. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    Not sure what insurance costs in Canada, but figure down here $1.85 per thousand.

    $140,000 would be $259 per month
    $40,000 would be $74 per month
     
  11. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    here's a thought, finance it for 84 but pay off in 60. keeps payment low in those lean months.
     
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