Question about 5th Wheel Release Arm.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by EzekelRAGE, Feb 17, 2017.

  1. EzekelRAGE

    EzekelRAGE Bobtail Member

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    What do you do to get it to go in all the way when cold weather stops it?

    Has happened twice due to cold weather, the arm sticks out about the size of your pinky to index finger, but the pin is still fully covered.

    I tried manually pushing it in.
    I tried rocking back and forth while someone tried to force it in.
    Unhooking and hooking back up several times.
    Lowering trailer a bit and hooking back up.

    The first time it happened, a yard guy with 20 years otr experience told me it would be ok to drive, when I turned a corner the arm would settle itself in. I drove out the drive way, sure enough it 'settled' when I turned the corner to exit. I don't like the possible risk of dropping the trailer though.

    Happened again the next day. Spent like an hour or two trying to get it to go all the way in. I finally said screw it, drove and hoped it would "settle" again. This time a little easier than the first time. Still, risky.

    Is there a simpler, safer way to do it?
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Clean all the old, dirty grease from the jaws and lock and put a very light layer of new, clean grease there. What is happening is the buildup of grease is freezing into a rock hard lump preventing the jaws from fully closing.
     
  4. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I have never been in an environment cold enough to freeze grease rock solid. I aint sayin it couldn't happen but, I aint never been there.

    I say you got a faulty 5th wheel part somewhere another. You need to get your 5th wheel checked out.

    Since you admitted you're driving around without your 5th wheel unlocked, I'm just curious where you run, so I can put that area, along with the area that gets cold enough to freeze grease rock solid the same ... I want to avoid both of those areas.
     
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  5. Cat sdp

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    I've had them freeze because of ice....
     
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  6. STexan

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    I use the 3 lb shop hammer [I keep for frozen drums] to gently "coax" it back in on those really cold days where it doesn't want to fully close on it's own. Usually just one "tap" on the handle does the trick. Otherwise a brick or big rock or 4x4 post, or board or whatever else makes itself available should work as well.

    FYI drivers, any time the temperature drops below about +5 to +10 degrees F and you're hooking up to a trailer, always make a visual inspection of the latch handle to insure it's all the way in after hooking up. A tug may seem fine, but some times the handle will still be half way out. But even still, I usually make it a habit of doing several push and tugs to massage the mechanism full closed (to the extent it will) given the very cold grease doesn't want to allow for a lot of easy movement of metal parts.
     
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  7. pattyj

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    I suggest having a mechanic look at it soon.You shouldn't be having that much trouble all the time no matter how much crap is on the pin.Also you don't say screw it in hopes it'll fix itself.One of these days it won't fix itself.Your job as a trk driver is to make sure everything is in working condition before you start driving.So do your part and take your trk to the shop.
     
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  8. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    The only way you can work to reduce this issue (extreme cold caused) is to use fully synthetic grease and even then it's no guarantee if it gets cold enough. Many shops in northern fleets do, but then some other shop uses regular grease and effectively undoes previous attempts to help the issue.
     
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  9. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    If that is indeed the case then he needs to take it to the companies shop.He should look over the fifthwheel before hooking up.
     
  10. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    That's cause you are from LA. :) A few years back, we had a cold snap here that it didn't get above 0 for over a week, and most nights were -20. I seen the shop guys taking an air chisel to some of the grease buildup on a few of the trucks as this exact thing was happening. Might not have been rock hard, but it was hard enough it took effort with the air chisel to clear it out.

    Now why they didn't simply keep it in the warm shop a few hours and simply wipe it off after it warmed up is unknown to me...
     
  11. strollinruss

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    At the FIRST sign of trouble I buy a new fifth wheel plate. Too important to jack around with something like that
     
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