Question about Canadian HOS

Canadian we run 70/7. USA are 60/7 or 70/8.

Correct so far? Both are considered Cycle 1, yes?

So, running off recap hours, my safety advisor told me, as a Canadian, to follow the 70/7 rule while in the USA. He said you follow your home terminal rules, that your cycle doesn't change once you hit the border. Which, I agree the cycle doesn't change. However, it is my understanding that I need to follow the 70/8 rule whole in the USA. Everything I can read or anyone I ask confirms my understanding.

It doesn't make sense you can pick and choose which HOS rules to follow crossbotder

 

You're correct.

Not sure why your safety advisor would think you can ignore the US rules while in the US but he/she is wrong.

Are drivers from Canada or Mexico affected by the U.S. HOS rules?
Yes, if they operate in the United States. Drivers from Canada and Mexico who drive in the U.S. need to be in full compliance with the U.S. hours-of-service rules upon crossing the border, just like any U.S. driver.
https://www.jjkeller.com/shop/content____bi-hoursofservice-newrule-FAQs

 

Thanks. That's more or less what I figured. I don't need to be "right", I won't challenge him. I just wanted to confirm how to keep myself out of trouble.

By the way, the Star wrote a piece on the crash you posted about on the 400. The last paragraph (paraphrased) said while truck drivers are usually redponsible drivers, they make mistakes too. They said they think the truck driver waited too long to begin braking action

 

One minor comment; Cycle 1 and Cycle 2 only applies to Canadian HOS, the U.S. does not refer to their HOS that way. As @tinytim mentioned, you must always follow the HOS of the jurisdiction you are driving in.

 

The usual now. No one leaves seven seconds anymore. Right on each other's bumpers now. It's only 80,000 pounds, it stops on a dime, right?

 

You definitely have to be careful running recap hours. That extra day can mess you up.

The way my route works, I have to get a reset every weekend. While I have the hours available to run recap in Canada, I won't be able to get back in rhe states at the end of the week due to that 8th day in the US cycle.

 

That's what prompted the first phone call to safety. I hadn't run recap in awhile on paper, and couldn't remember if you had to note the hours available on my logs. I was down in Georgia at the time. My 70/7 was around 58, my 70/8 was around 68. Something like that. Safety said drive, so I drove.

Left Rock Hill, SC the next morning at 1000. I was getting fuel in Toronto at 2345.

 

Yep, 80000 or 4000 not many leave adequate following distance.

One initial report I read said a 4 wheeler started it by rear ending a truck. Other reports say the truck driver started it. Regardless of who is responsible for the initial crash there wouldn't have been 11 vehicles involved if everyone else was driving properly.

The bottom of the 400 is a bottleneck, always leave extra distance and watch my mirrors approaching that.

 

Hey guys. Used to work oil patch, used to running like a banshee on oil well permit. 21/3. Life was fun. 5 years later in running cycle 1 usually gone 5-7 dates but always within my 70 hours. Until now, where I'm supposed to do 16-24 days out before going home. My question is simple:
Guys who run 2 weeks before their 24 hour reset and also run state side, how do you guys run your logs for those 13-14 days?
9 hour days? 10 hour days? Magic tricks?

 

If you run US and Canada and never want to stop, you just average 8.75 hrs/day total on duty time and you'll never have to stop. If you stay on the Canadian side, you can average 10 hours. I prefer to get as close to maxed out every day as possible and just take 36 hr resets on the road as necessary.