Question about firearms

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Riotside, Jul 30, 2022.

  1. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    There is NO difference between a Commercial Motor Vehicle as defined in 390.5 and a personal vehicle when it comes to the vehicle exception to the 4th amendment. The governing caselaw is Carroll V US ruled in 1925. At first, it applied ONLY to Federal Agents, but in the 1960s the court changed this and made it apply to ALL cops. Cops still are not supposed to be going on fishing expeditions with no basis for searching. They are supposed to have a dang good reason regardless of vehicle type to search (probable cause). I can't remember the cases, but the courts have tossed out evidence discovered by cops searching vehicles with no established probable cause. This is why I advise everyone to record ALL contacts made with police officers. CYA!
     
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    My daughter is married to an Army Lt Col stationed at Ft Eustis. "Ricky" and Keri do NOT live on post. Keri does not carry but he does from time to time. This is true. Ft Eustis will NOT store a weapon and further, they will contact the Newport News Police if there is anything illegal about that weapon. I have never understood this. There is almost a 500-foot buffer between their main gates and state property, still, they allow local police to arrest you outside the gate. About 2 years ago some idiot tried to ram through one of the gates over at the Little Creek Navy base (East Coast Navy Seals home) and was killed in the attempt. Since then all of these military installations here have got VERY tough about weapons.
     
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  4. bryan21384

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    Some companies go down into Mexico too. Don't get caught there with a firearm either. A cop from Nashville went to Mexico for vacation. Tried to come back to the states and he is locked up for having a firearm on their turf. They don't even care that he's law enforcement on USA grounds. He fouled up there.

    It's so much speak about CCW rights on here, but OP, the reality is you're most likely going to a major reputable company. You'll need to have it in your mind that a firearm will not be allowed in the truck. You'll also need to have it in your mind that most places you go to, you probably won't need it anyway. We are confined to truck stops and warehouses. It's our own world out here. All that being said, if you're going to try to get away with it being in your truck, be smart about it. When you go to whichever company's terminal, put it in a case and hide it somewhere, don't let them see it with the naked eye. If they tell you that you gotta leave it at home, then do so. Don't argue with a company about their policies, same with a potential shipper or receiver as well. Truckers, more often than not, are too concerned with showing how big their balls are. They also make the mistake of dying on the wrong hill. Whatever you do, be careful.
     
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  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I run into this so much I could scream. More times than I would care to admit, I have accompanied a Parent or the wife of a trucker to attempt to get them out of jail because they were given real BAD legal advice by some dang truck stop attorney!

    I am not trying to say in the US a person regardless of if they are a driver or not has no civil rights. Far from it. I am saying learn what those rights are and in some cases the case law behind why there are some exceptions.
     
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  6. God prefers Diesels

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    I've checked my pistol at the gate before, so that doesn't apply to all bases. They had a form to fill out, and they just put it in a locker.
     
  7. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Arkansas honors all states. Besides you can carry here without a permit legally, anyway.
     
  8. Mototom

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    Get a permit most other states recognize and just be careful rolling through states that don’t.

    Learn how to apply the peaceful journey law. This will save you the most.
     
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  9. Catmando

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    The ones that bark the most are the 1s that have the smallest nadds.. they don't scare me their all blow & no go.. their use they mouth as their weapon.
    It's the guy that comes from nowhere not saying a word with pistol pointed at you is the 1 you better worry about..
    The trucker standing there running his pie hole saying .. I gota gun ....I gota gun and will shoot you.. is the 1 that ain't got t he nadds to squeeze the trigger... hell... probably doesn't even have bullets in it
    Carrying 1 and using 1 are to complete different horses
     
  10. buddyd157

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    i just wish all states allow carry with permits.

    if a person can legally buy a gun, can legally own a gun, and qualifies to obtain a carry permit, then dang it, allow carrying all over the place.

    respnisible gun owners do not go out looking for trouble, but i'd imagine, there are some "bad apples" out there that do.
     
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  11. Catmando

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    Nothing ...as long as the drug deal goes down with out a hitch ...lol
     
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