question about flatbeds and steel coils

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Logan76, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. oldedge

    oldedge Light Load Member

    We had some transcraft that we hauled coils on for 10 years. One of the crane operators moved mine one night and tried to run over a concrete post with it. Almost tore the tandems out from under it. Other than that I never had a problem with it. {we pulled the same trailer all the time}
  2. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

    Nov 21, 2009
    Just south of the north 40

    The coil racks was from the Alabama state coil certification test.

    The friction mats under a coil cradle is based on the " general cargo securement" section. Specifically "low friction" cargo securement. Per Alabama DOT.

    Steel coil racks on an aluminum trailer are considered low friction.

    I never argue with some one with a badge and gun.
  3. oldedge

    oldedge Light Load Member

    I took the ala test and I don't remember anything about coil rack ratings on it. Coils have there on securement rules. You don't go by the general securement rules unless the coils are under a certain weight,I think it is 5000 lds If you use the general rules then you have to have a chain every 5 feet. where are you going to put it?
  4. oldedge

    oldedge Light Load Member

    Oh, if you are running in ala, I feel for you. They are one reason I retired when I did.
  5. oldedge

    oldedge Light Load Member

    P.P.S I started running friction mats 17 years ago. I like them. I've seen too many coils move {not mine,Other people"s}
  6. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    kicked back in my lazyboy...
    These rules you stated are basically for vans. As a steel hauler you should know how to chain a coil down properly. The friction or cleats are basically for skidded coils in a van. I've never run a friction mat. If you chain the coil down correctly it won't move!

    You are right about the coil being chained down wrong. No chain should be on the outside of the rail incase of side impact. You can get a ticket for a load chained down that way.
  7. dieseldon

    dieseldon Light Load Member

    Feb 14, 2010
    Detroit, MI
    First off i don't remember the full weight of the coil i was estmating it by looking how many chains used. It could have been between 20-40 lbs. I did not use friction mats when i started hauling flatbed years ago. I have used mats from time to time. I don't see how the hooks on the rub rail are wrong. The chain is not on the outside of the rub rail. We chain lots of loads to the rub rail. Have not had any problems with loads moving.
  8. bulldozerbert

    bulldozerbert Medium Load Member

    Oct 5, 2008
    has anyone on here ever ran one of these coil trailers?

    and did you chain down the coils.

    I cannot imagine the DOT liking it if you do not chain them down.
  9. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

    Oct 18, 2009
    Waynesburg, Pa

    Friction mats are for vans cause there is no way to provide enough tie downs to properly hold the cargo. The reason the hooks are wrong is because they are attached to the rub rail. They should wrap the pocket or spool and hook back to the chain. But alot of times that is not possible because you dont have room to attach a binder. In that case you have to do it the way you have it with the exception I would never hook 2 chains to the same pocket.
    The rule as far as I understand is you need the weight in working load. If the chain goes over, through or around the load and back to the trailer it counts as 2 so a 5400lb WLL would be worth 10800 as when hauling coils. Remember the chains usually are not the weak link the tie downs are. the accidents I've seen or heard about 1st hand they all siad the chains held ripped the pocket/chain tie/spool right out the trailer. Jhooks rip the floor out.
    Shaggy Thanks this.
  10. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

    May 16, 2009
    It's not overweight, it's a permit load so while it's over 80k he's still legal.

    Their steel, not aluminum.

    He was waiting to back in and unload.
    johnday Thanks this.
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