Question about logbooks

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by pricey59, Apr 23, 2011.

  1. pricey59

    pricey59 Light Load Member

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    Hello all, I have just started driving a reefer, and I was wondering if I can legally log unloading time as off duty or in the sleeper. Some days it takes 6-8 hours to get unloaded, and if that goes towards my 14 hours, the I get nowhere.......I have heard that you can log it as off duty, but some say no. Plus if I log it as sleeper, I have to be there 8 hours correct? So if I arrive at 7:00am and am in the sleeper until 3:00pm getting unloaded, then the 14 hour clock stops for those 8 hours???? This is kind of hard for me to understand. My last job was hauling ag. products, and I didn't need to do logs. Any help would be great. I just don't want to use all of my hours sitting at the dock if there is another way. I must say though.....why does it take so darn long to unload a reefer? When I haul dry goods, it's like 2 hours max, and I am unloaded.

    Thanks guys
     
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  3. Mdbluecrab

    Mdbluecrab <b>Crusty Crab</b>

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    I always log anywhere from 30 mins.-1 hour of on duty not driving, when loading or unloading, even if it takes more hours than that.
    If your at a spot for more than an hour, just log off duty for the remaining hours until you start driving again. This can screw up your driving time the next day, just gotta use your imagination and be a little creative. You'll figure it out as you go along.
     
  4. Scarecrow03

    Scarecrow03 Road Train Member

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    You're best off not to log time at a dock as off duty (Line 1).

    Line 2 is what I use and I pull a reefer also.

    Line 1 is for home time, motels, or short breaks (.5-1 hr for meals, showers, etc.)

    I used to log wait time at a dock as Line 1 until a CA DOT told me not to.

    He said if your waiting to load, you're either on duty or in the bunk.

    As to the 8 hours, you are correct about it stopping your 14 as long as it's 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth!!

    Off duty time cannot be split like sleeper berth time can.

    One last thing, I never log more than 15 minutes for loading or unloading.

    I might be there for 12 hours, but it never takes me more than 15 minutes to check in/out and open/close my doors.

    This is all the time that is required by the FMCSA.

    Some companies may require you to show more than that.

    If they do, I suggest you follow their rules.
     
  5. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yeah, on paper, you want it to look like you arrived, opened the doors backed in, got unloaded and had paperwork signed, THEN went off duty while waiting for dispatch. You should vary un-load times (15 min -2 hours), because the DOT boys aren't idiots.
     
  6. Scarecrow03

    Scarecrow03 Road Train Member

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    I've been inspected a lot and have never had any DOT officer say anything about logging 15 minutes to load or unload. The only thing that's ever been called to my attention by a LEO was the off duty thing I mentioned.

    Log it as sleeper berth.
     
  7. pricey59

    pricey59 Light Load Member

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    Thanks you for your input, it really helps
     
  8. postmandav

    postmandav Medium Load Member

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    I always logged it as 15 mins on duty/not driving and then line 2 for the remainder. Unless the ship/recv specified that I could not be in the truck.
     
  9. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    Driver asking for guidance.......................




    Log it as you do it, use that little green book for reference.

    Still have questions, ask your company, they know how they want it logged...............
     
  10. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Umm huh. So when Walmart decides its time to require the drivers to be out of their cabs and in their "drivers lounge" - we're not supposed to log that on line 1? Yeah. Right. Tell Kalifornikommiekountry to stick it.
     
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  11. Jbrake1960

    Jbrake1960 Light Load Member

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    As soon as you go on duty for the day, your 14 hours starts. When you arrive at shipper and if you go to line 1, your 14 hour clock is still running. If you drove 1 hour to shipper,go to line 1 for 3 hours waiting to load, you would have 10 hours driving time left and 10 hours on your 14 left.
     
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