Question for Drivers about Part-Time Work?

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by JM0822, Apr 10, 2015.

  1. JM0822

    JM0822 Bobtail Member

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    Hi, I am interested in getting experienced Truck Driver input on some questions I have about the industry:

    Pertaining to Local Shipments:

    1. Can Drivers with a CDL pay local carriers to rent a 53 foot dry van or flatbed for a day, week or month? If so, I know the rate would vary, but any idea on what range of pricing? Is this normal in the industry?

    2. If a driver has a CDL, and is either let go, or quits a carrier, how long is their License valid for?

    3. With the driver shortage across the industry, what amount of money would be worthwhile for drivers with a CDL to work a random day during the week, or on the weekend, when they feel like making some extra money?

    4. If you could make improvements to carrier pay, versus the current payment structure, what would it be?

    Any input would be great, thanks!
     
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  3. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Answer to question 2 your cdl is valid as long as you have a cdl and don't let it expire.But you also need to register your med card with dmv and if that expires your cdl gets downgraded to a regular DL and once you register your med card it immediated goes back to CDL.
     
  4. miss elvee

    miss elvee Heavy Load Member

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    1. There are companies that rent trailers. Monthly fee plus hub miles. Varies too widely to quote here.

    2. The CDL is good until revoked by traffic infractions or your physical runs out.

    3. Depends on the work. Hubby and I won't roll for anyone for less than 57cpm. And if you're asking us to give up a day off... well, your rate just went through the roof. Most guys... solos... 45 cpm maybe. Gotta be better than their day jobs.

    4. Depends on what you're doing. Load, unload, multi stop/drop, detention pay, on duty pay, breakdown pay... just depends. If they load or tarp the load, they should get paid more. If they're in NYC or the Burrows those guys get per trip PITA pay.

    I'd like to give you better info, but your questions are very vague. Maybe if we had more info, we could give you more specific helpful advice. ;)
     
  5. JM0822

    JM0822 Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for your quick replies!
    Some more clarity on my questions in response to your answers Miss Elvee:

    1. There are companies that rent trailers. Monthly fee plus hub miles. Varies too widely to quote here.
    -With the current driver shortage, and shippers requiring more trucks for their local shipments, I am wondering if it would be worth a driver with a CDL to rent a 53 foot van or flatbed, to one run a week, or one run on the weekend, for some extra money. I first wanted to find out if carriers with extra equipment are even open to that before approaching them for pricing etc. Also, if I did have a carrier with extra equipment in the area that would be open to renting out the truck for a day, or a week, etc, what credentials would my company have to have to legally do that, and then have a driver that I hire personally with a CDL license to drive the truck?

    2. The CDL is good until revoked by traffic infractions or your physical runs out.
    -Thank you. Back to my note on Q1, I wanted to know if drivers would be interested in jumping in a prepaid truck, rented by me, and driving it whenever they felt like making some extra money.

    3. Depends on the work. Hubby and I won't roll for anyone for less than 57cpm. And if you're asking us to give up a day off... well, your rate just went through the roof. Most guys... solos... 45 cpm maybe. Gotta be better than their day jobs.
    -In a large city market, not NYC. Lets take L.A as an example. If I have a 50 mile local run, and I were to hire a contracted driver for the day, how much would it cost to make it worth their while? Would they prefer to be paid hourly, or from a percentage of the total cost (since by mile wouldn't really pertain with such short mileage)

    4. Depends on what you're doing. Load, unload, multi stop/drop, detention pay, on duty pay, breakdown pay... just depends. If they load or tarp the load, they should get paid more. If they're in NYC or the Burrows those guys get per trip PITA pay.
    -Sorry for not being more clear! Just pertaining to payment for picking up the order, and making the delivery, would quicker payments make it more appealing, higher wages, geting paid by the hour, etc. Not having to do with assessorials like driver assist, or detention.

    Thank you so much for your feedback!
     
  6. miss elvee

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    1. If you have an in with a local carrier odds are they would give you a better price. Most of the big boys that exclusively rent trailers and equipment go by the month
    Some of them will only rent trailers and trucks to businesses with 1mil gross revenue or more. So if you can get a buddy deal, jump on it. You might also try local owner ops too. Don't forget the insurance. Most places won't let you leave the lot without it. And how are you running your authority?

    3. For local runs like that drivers are normally paid by the hour. Find out what locals and yard dogs make in your area and bump it up a bit. In Columbus they make 18, so I'd offer say 20 or 22. For side work in any trade same day cash is going to be preferred, but it will be tough to keep it legal payroll wise unless you cut them a 1099 at the end of the year. Putting folks on payroll for things like this I don't have a ton of experience with. But pay weekly. No matter what. Pay more for reliable and safe drivers. Cull the herd regularly.

    Hope that helps. :)
     
  7. miss elvee

    miss elvee Heavy Load Member

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    Oh and PS... there arr threads here about how to get your own authority. I'd read those. You'll need that to put an unaffiliated truck on the road.

    Also try to give your drivers a full day of work 3 or 4 runs. Make it worth their while. At the same time drivers are going to have to manage their HOS so they still have enough left to run legal for their day job.
     
  8. 2Girls_1Truck

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    Aside from the obstacle of obtaining motor carrier authority, IFTA, and all the bells and whistles involved with hiring CDL drivers (drug/alcohol pre-employment tests, background searches, pulling abstracts for insurance company etc) you may also find many employee drivers are bound by contract not to work for other carriers while employed full time.

    Every carrier I've worked time for has this clause in their employee contract because of the difficulty maintaining 2 sets of logbooks if a driver is employed part time driving elsewhere.

    If it's cash you're talking about, there's no way I personally would risk running with no authority, filing logs for work that wasnt totally. 100% above ground. It would be the driver's peril if pulled into a scale house or stopped by a state trooper without proper authority .

    My old company didn't get our new IFTA stickers to us in time one year and I was left holding a $400 fine, despite being able to prove that the fuel permit was in place and that it was just the sticker we were missing. They obviously paid it, but any blemish on my good name is too many.
     
  9. JM0822

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    Thanks again for the feedback. Lets say a carrier had extra an extra power unit and trailer in his yard being unused, and a resident in the area, that has a CDL felt like providing some help on a random Saturday. Could that driver, that is currently not working for a carrier at all, be hired by this local carrier and run one order that day, being paid by the hour?
     
  10. 2Girls_1Truck

    2Girls_1Truck Medium Load Member

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    It sounds like you're asking if a carrier can hire a spare or part time driver? Of course they can, many companies "slip seat" drivers on the weekend. (Put a part time driver in a truck that is sitting because its usual driver is on home time, vacation, etc)

    It's very common that companies do not want their equipment to "lay fallow" for a few days when it could be generating income. "Dedicated equipment" (ie no slip seating) is a retention tool used to attract and keep drivers, since most of us don't want a stranger using our coffee machine, wearing boots in the truck, sleeping on our sheets, etc and don't want to have to pack up the truck each and every time it will be parked for a few hours, a night, or a few days.

    My first job would slip seat trucks with part time weekend guys to punish drivers who wanted to go home too often. My second company didn't allow part time or local drivers to drive the OTR trucks but there were probably 30 drivers sharing 12 trucks, so the day cabs moved 24 hours a day. Sometimes they switched trucks in the middle of a shift.

    My current job, the only drivers who ever even sit in our truck are the Ryder service techs when they wheel it into/out of the shop when we are home.
     
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