Question for experienced O/O's

I think there is room for morality in business. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Some say "it's just business". Personally, I like to be thought of as someone who can be trusted. Wether it be on business or anything else. That's how I was raised and that's how I raise mine. Maybe what comes around goes around, I don't know. But I think the lesson to be learned here for any existing or future o/o is this... If your company ever gets to the point where you are hiring people, have them sign a non-compete contract. IMO, that is just business. And I'm betting that if the original poster ever gets to that point he will do the same, because he don't wanna get screwed over the way he screwed the other guy. Jus sayin

 

You are confusing short term gain with long term gain.

 

No, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this.

 

Guys business is business however....this is very close... Im not sure the deal the farm wants to give him is so great..sounds like alot of fuel are you returning empty? That isnt the way you want to run...second I agree how many rigs does your current boss own...he could crush you. I think you need to ask alot more questions perhaps this farmer will show you the current contract, is your boss paying to keep the trailer DOT? or is that what the farmer would "like". Also it would be nice if you tell us a little about how long you have been doing this, age etc...

Capatin Dave

 

We see it every day. Some guy works hard starts a restaurant. Pays for fresh produce and grade A meats. Hires a good staff, and he has people lined up around the block. Man retires. His son, who doesn't have the same ethics, takes over, and decides to cut corners. First people he bangs heads with are the venders. grade A meats are replaced with grade D cat food meat. Fires the chef because he found someone to do the same job cheaper. Food quality goes down the toilet and patrons complain to the wait staff. Fires the wait staff because he's tired of hearing them bellyache. Quality scrapes the bottom of the sewer. Grade D meat is used even after it turns gray. Health inspector is chewing the owners' arse. And the next time you go by there, you see the place boarded up.

Farmer Brown likes the service he's given. How do we know? He's trying to steal the driver! Like the call girls will tell you, "good service is never cheap and cheap service is never good." Morally, this is a dirtbag move. Problem is, dirtbag moves NEVER stop at one dirtbag move. OP is assuming that he will get the same deal as his boss. That's doubtful. Farmer Brown is reasoning that since OP won't have the same overhead, he can go for cheaper. What happens if OP realizes that his ex employer had needed to raise prices to maintain quality? Farmer Brown will find someone cheaper, and OP with all of his eggs in 1 basket will be SOL. SHORT TERM, OP would have made more money than what he's making now, but long term, it's not going to end well.

Now, if OPs boss and Farmer Brown decides to split ways, and OP makes a deal with Farmer Brown, that's different! Nobody gets dirty.

 

Been around farmers all my life the only reason he doesn't have his own truck hauling the feed is because he can get you to do it cheaper than his cost. Then next week he will someone else to haul it cheaper. They are worst people I have ever worked for and they lie about rates they say one thing pay another. I will trust any broker any day over a farmer. Brokers have laws to work by. Farmers are exempt from about every law there is. RUN from this deal don't look back cause there will be a knife in your back from either our boss or the farmer.

 

Why don't you ask the farmer if he is willing to buy the truck, put insurance on it and you will work for him.