Question for O/O who haul AA&E with multi truck fleet...

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by *Coyote*, Jul 20, 2014.

  1. *Coyote*

    *Coyote* Bobtail Member

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    If I have posted this in the wrong section I apologize in advance, mod feel free to move.

    I am a student at a local school and have a question to O/O that have a multi truck fleet with subordinate drivers. I have a vast background in hazmat and was advised by my instructors to apply at tanker company's as well as AA&E companies because I already have clearance. Well I put in several apps and made multiple phone calls and have gotten a few calls back from companies as well as lease on O/O operations. One in particular is a 4 truck fleet O/O setup that is run by a husband wife team. I guess I'm just a little hazy on the figures I was quoted and wether they are low or not. So I'm asking you...

    Here was the offer as it was laid out for me

    Drivers are paid 30% of the load which is split equally between the two drivers, company keeps 40% and 30% goes to the broker they have leased on with.

    No medical insurance or Short term or LTD.

    One week paid vacation per quarter based on a one hundred dollar a day for five day week.

    Average income for a driver last year ranged between 35K and 45K


    So do these numbers sound right to you?
     
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  3. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Not for hauling that kinda of stuff. look else where
     
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  4. Lowa3468

    Lowa3468 Heavy Load Member

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    Wow 30%, think of percentages as CPM. So 30% would equal .30 CPM now take that number and divide that by 2 leaves you 15% or equates to .15 CPM.

    Now ow percentages can often times work out in a drivers favor and sometimes not just depends on the load and how much one is getting to haul the load for example......

    1000 mile load that pays $3.00 per mile that would break down as follows...
    3000x30%=$900.00. For the truck
    2 drivers split $900.00 = $450.00 per driver
    $450/500 miles =.90 CPM for each driver

    now let's look at it the other way
    1000 mile load that pays lets say $1.00 per mile
    1000x 1.00= $1000.00 for the load
    1000x30% = $300 dollars to the truck
    2 drivers split $150 per driver
    $150/500 miles = .30 CPM

    the above figures don't include whether or not fuel surcharge is included or not some place will count fuel surcharge towards drivers pay others it's percentage on what the load pays excluding the fuel surcharge.

    so basically if they are hauling cheap freight all the time you can find a place that will pay you more per mile.
     
  5. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Why would you look at it as $.30 CPM? It is a percentage and it is going to be based on what they run for. And that freight is going to be high dollar.

    So, the income they are talking about is low for this. But I question what they are doing. New driver, not an established team running AA&E? What insurance company or carrier is going to allow this?
     
  6. *Coyote*

    *Coyote* Bobtail Member

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    I was thinking the same thing but holding my tongue.

    the guy they were going to place me with has been hauling aae for fourteen years. The company has been hauling for seventeen. From what I was told was that my situation is not that uncommon. Especially for guys coming out of the military with ordinance training.
     
  7. Lowa3468

    Lowa3468 Heavy Load Member

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    Well, if all companies were honest about what they actually make on loads ok you may have a point, but.....depending on where people run too, the price per load could vary and if again we are talking about cheap freight haulers etc....then yes the percentage deal is a bad deal unless one is getting a higher percentage rate.

    Here we are talking about 2 drivers making basically 15% each to equal 30% so to me that percentage per driver seems low, unless....and again I say unless all freight that is being picked up and moved is being paid at a much higher rate then what one would see on load boards or coming out of lets say Florida rates.

    sat next to a driver a few months back in Utah, his dispatchers all told him that the best rate out of Utah to Cali was $1.20 a mile, I told him bs and showed him how much freight was moving for and he finally picked up a load for $3.20 a mile......so again depends on the kind of people we are dealing with
     
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