Question Regarding 100 mile air radious DVIR.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by CaptainJJay, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    If I plan on going over 12 hours I fill out a log just like most OTR drivers do. But if I wasn't planning on going over the 12, I will start a log sheet and log line 4 up to the 12 hour mark. After 12, I log it as it happens. I've been through the scales and had roadside inspections and never had an issue. The main thing I've found is the cop is usually only concerned that youre not over the 100 mile radius. As far as the 16 hour rule, I think you are able to use it once every 7 days, not sure. But if you are using the 16 hour exemption, make sure you note it on your logs and log it as it happens
     
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  3. CaptainJJay

    CaptainJJay Bobtail Member

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    Oh ok, so my question to you is - since you do it straight log. I do it time sheet, until 12 hours.. how do i proceed then? Exact way to log it? Sorry for the misunderstanding.. I do not actually log a log, what i'm trying to understand is how should it look like after the 12th hour, going from time sheet to logbook. This is how they have local guys setup here.
     
  4. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Question 21: When a driver fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exemption (section 395.1(e)), is the driver required to have copies of his/her records of duty status for the previous seven days? Must the driver prepare daily records of duty status for the next seven days?


    Guidance: The driver must only have in his/her possession a record of duty status for the day he/she does not qualify for the exemption. A driver must begin to prepare the record of duty status for the day immediately after he/she becomes aware that the terms of the exemption cannot be met The record of duty status must cover the entire day, even if the driver has to record retroactively changes in status that occurred between the time that the driver reported for duty and the time in which he/she no longer qualified for the 100 air-mile radius exemption. This is the only way to ensure that a driver does not claim the right to drive 10 hours after leaving his/her exempt status, in addition to the hours already driven under the 100 air-mile exemption.
     
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  5. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    I run a time sheet also unless I'm planning to go over or I get held up somewhere causing me to go over. If I go over because of something unplanned, I fill out a log sheet . I log everything up to 12 hours on line 4. Once I hit 12 hours, I will then show exactly what I did AFTER the 12 hours. I've been told as long as I'm not over the 100 mile radius at any point in my day, that what I'm doing is legit. Post #5 is the correct way to do it as I understand.
     
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  6. CaptainJJay

    CaptainJJay Bobtail Member

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    Ok thanks guys.

    So RBR, from my understanding to your post - unless you know you're not going over 12 hours.. you will stick to a time sheet. If you know it's going to be a long day, you're going to not fill out a time sheet for that day but do a logbook instead as stated in post #5. So in essence, there's really no way to use a time sheet for 12 hours, logbook for the remaining hours. It's just.. EITHER OR. That's what I was trying to get at, use 12 hours on time sheet then complete a logbook for the remaining two hours.
     
  7. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    Sort of.....I still fill out a time sheet showing all hours on duty. I then staple the log sheet to the time sheet
     
  8. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    I stick with time sheets and use loose leaf logs when needed
     
  9. CaptainJJay

    CaptainJJay Bobtail Member

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    OK thanks.

    Sounds like a headache if D.O.T decides to make a fuss about it.

    Example: They ask to see upto last seven days, sure you show them.. they also see that you completed your time sheet for that day, but also have a logbook for it aswell. Some D.O.T folks are hard to deal with. But thanks for clearing it up! I will definitely still fill my time sheet out then make a logbook 12 hours, onwards then log it how it is exactly what i've done.

    Thanks all! Question answered!
     
  10. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    I would post a picture of my time sheet and how I do it, but I don't know how.
     
  11. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    This is the guideance from the DOT:

    Question 20: When a driver fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exemption (section 395.1(e)), is the driver required to have copies of his/her records of duty status for the previous seven days? Must the driver prepare daily records of duty status for the next seven days?
    Guidance: The driver must only have in his/her possession a record of duty status for the day he/she does not qualify for the exemption. The record of duty status must cover the entire day, even if the driver has to record retroactively changes in status that occurred between the time that the driver reported for duty and the time in which he/she no longer qualified for the 100 air-mile radius exemption. This is the only way to ensure that a driver does not claim the right to drive 10 hours after leaving his/her exempt status, in addition to the hours already driven under the 100 air-mile exemption
     
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