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Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by 85COE, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. 85COE

    85COE Light Load Member

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    Getting my truck worked on (1985 Volvo White COE) and recently had some work done to it, and a DOT. This is what they gave me to get fixed ( * means they claim it's DOT required)

    City horn not working*
    fuel crossover line hanging free
    left front drive wheel seal*
    rear rear pinion seal
    air lines to air dryer hanging free*
    psgr door won't open
    marker lights on roof not working*
    engine leaking oil out of rocker shaft on back
    no fire extinguisher or triangles*
    no muffler
    5th wheel

    It'll all get fixed regardless of if it's required or not. My question(s) are as follows:

    How should I prioritize the repairs?
    Circumstances notwithstanding (age of truck, seized bolts,. etc) how much should i expect to spend with a labor rate of $100/hr? a ballpark is fine. I just don't want to get a $7k bill for this if it should only cost $4k

    i'm learning as i go, trying to go to O/O

    Thank you in advance
     
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  3. Deere hunter

    Deere hunter Road Train Member

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    My guess under 2k. Not sure about 5 wheel what’s actually wrong with it?
     
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  4. rolls canardly

    rolls canardly Road Train Member

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    This is SHOPS priority list:
    seals and engine oil leaks first.
    A muffler would be nice; along with a fifth wheel.

    You could pull the passenger door inner panel and see if linkage is just stretched out.
    Horn and lights are possibly wiring or bulbs.
    You could buy fire extinguisher and extra triangles from a truck wrecking yard.
    Not a whole lot wrong here, mostly labor and parts.

    This is YOUR priority list:
    (Can't you do any of this yourself????)
    Go get your hands dirty, you'll be glad you did!
    Start with the marker lights on roof; pull the bulb and see if filament is broken.
    (Possibly replace all with LED Bulbs, while you are doing it.)
    get a test probe and see if there's juice there, then move to next one. DONE.
    Horn, test the unit off a battery first, if it's good - it's the wiring - replace it. DONE
    Next wire ties on all the hanging fuel and air lines. DONE.
    Pull rocker shaft cover, replace gasket. DONE.
    Easy-Peasy, and you just PAID YOURSELF about $250.00!
    None of this is high dollar, unless you need to totally replace fifth wheel.
    Again, a truck salvage yard would have one in great shape for less than half new price.
     
  5. AModelCat

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    Truck is old enough that the electrical will be fairly simple to T/S. Say 3-4 hours to diagnose electrical, repairs above and beyond.

    Wheel seal say 2 hours. Pinion seal could go either way. U-joint might just pop right out or she could be fused in there with rust. Worst case Ontario say 3 hours if the u-joint is being ignorant.

    Loose lines could just be a matter of zip ties or P-clamps. Shouldn't take much time.

    What engine? We'd need to know in order to ballpark a time.

    Muffler could take a couple hours. Exhaust can be pretty ignorant when its rusty and depending where the muffler goes some mounts/hangers may need to be sourced or fabbed up.
     
  6. 85COE

    85COE Light Load Member

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    It was a farm truck hauling a frameless dump. It won't slide, or pivot. With spring suspension on the drives, I believe it needs to be able to pivot.


    My apologies. It has a 300 Cummins, with a 9-speed
     
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  7. 85COE

    85COE Light Load Member

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    I'm sure I could do the lights and tie up the lines, but for everything else, I don't have the proper tools. I tried changing one of the brake chambers, and hit a snag when the cotter pin broke for the slack adjuster. I can turn wrenches on some basic stuff on a car, but no experience with a truck. If something was wrong on a company truck, don't touch it - take it to the shop. That's why I said I'm learning as I go.
     
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    Reason for edit: grammar
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  8. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    You never know what you can do unless you try. For what its worth trucks (especially one of your vintage) are easier to wrench on than cars.

    Sorry I can't help with the engine leak. I haven't come across a Cummins of that vintage. More of a CAT guy.
     
  9. 85COE

    85COE Light Load Member

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    I should note that I am not in a huge rush to get everything done. I'd rather get it done right the first time, than to get a band-aid slapped on and have to get it fixed again later down the road.

    Recent repairs -

    2 virgin steers
    2 alcoa rims for the steers
    cab jack
    2 30/30's
    flasher unit for the hazards/signals
    driver door will open easier
    driver window put up (bad regulator)
    DOT inspection for list of repairs needed (new it would fail)
     
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  10. amberfeldt

    amberfeldt Light Load Member

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    Think tool cost verse giving your money away to someone else. then you have tools for next time, even if it is some cheap frighting harbor tools.
    You can learn a lot on You tube , an call around to shops some people will tell you how to do things if you are unsure
     
  11. BoxCarKidd

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    Those Cummins had O-rings at each end of the the rocker shafts. There are three of them. If one is bad they all need replacing. Replace the o-rings on the fuel jumpers between the heads and under the plates at the ends while you are there. Adjust the valves and injectors as well. A 4 or 5 hour deal I thank for an experienced hand.
     
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