Questions about Oregon Highway $2000 Surety bond

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  1. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    The bond is reimbursed after 1 year.
    During the first year you have to file monthly.
    After the first year when you get your bond back, you can request to change your filing period from each month to quarterly. I'm not sure if you can request semi annual or annual.
    I was told it depends on how many miles you run.

    I run about 1000 miles a year in Oregon and file monthly. It's easy and online.
    I filed to get my account because for $8 I get the annual Oregon oversize permit.
    That's cheaper than getting individual OD permits.
    Plus I can run anywhere with a legal load and not be concerned about being off route with a mileage trip permit.
    Good luck
     
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  3. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    That sounds a bit like the rules for the interstate authority. I don’t remember them very well, but it has something to do with having your interstate authority revoked if you don’t use it or provide a legit explanation for why it wasn’t used. I don’t know the details, just remember reading or hearing about it.

    I found it, but it may be something else.

    “A registrant must operate each apportioned vehicle interstate during a reporting/registration period. If an apportioned vehicle did not operate interstate during a reporting/registration period, the registrant shall submit a letter of explanation with the apportioned application to TxDMV.”
     

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  4. Long FLD

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    I don’t care enough to research it. All I know is he usually runs up to OR and back a couple times a week and when he gets a new truck he runs all over to random places for a while to keep his CA miles low to avoid some sort of sales tax.

    The point I was trying to make is that he lives in CA and told you exactly what happened to him and you’re telling him how he’s doing it wrong. He got dinged for over $1000 so he has his reasons for purchasing fuel like he does. So I simply suggested maybe carriers based in CA get penalized if they don’t buy enough fuel in state.
     
  5. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    Maybe they’re getting penalized by CA, or maybe they’re not. I’m going to say they’re probably not, and I can explain it with this scenario:

    (numbers rounded for simplicity)
    3,000 miles per week
    7.0 MPG
    .60 CA fuel tax
    .20 OR fuel tax
    Driving only in these two states, with 50% of miles in CA and 50% in OR. (Simplicity)
    .40 fuel tax average (both states)
    12 weeks = 3 months/IFTA quarter (simplicity)

    3,000 miles / 7.0 MPG = 429
    429 X .40 fuel tax = $172
    $172 X 12 weeks = $2064 (total IFTA)

    Fueled only in OR
    429 X .20 fuel tax = $86 (simplicity)
    $86 X 12 weeks = $1032 (paid at pumps)
    $2064 - $1032 = $1032 (owe end of quarter)
    Or, $2064 (if no taxes paid at OR pumps)

    My calculations may not be accurate, but this should illustrate what happens if you fuel in the cheapest fuel tax states, deliberately, that is. You could end up with a huge fee. As I’ve said before, this in no way means you are paying more in fuel taxes. The distribution is just different. You would pay more at the end of the quarter because you paid little or none at the pumps.
     
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  7. SteveScott

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    I've never claimed that I'm "saving" on fuel taxes anywhere. I'm simply paying for them at the pump instead of writing a check to IFTA. Please don't over-analyze this. I thought exactly what you're thinking when I started and it cost me a grand. California has it's own set of rules to operate under for IFTA, and that's just the price of doing business out here. You don't have to understand or agree with it. That's just the way it is.
     
  8. interested in engine

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    Thank you for the explanation
     
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  9. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    Search,,,
    Oregon trucking online
    ,,,You will find the answers to questions you didn't even know you had.
    Good luck
     
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  10. SoCalRed

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    It is obvious that most drivers don't understand that. They think that if they pay less IFTA at the end of the quarter they "saved" money. It's like overpaying your taxes and getting a refund. Some think it's free money from the government.
     
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