Questions about pusher axles

Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by kylefitzy, Mar 1, 2022.

  1. Landincoldfire

    Landincoldfire Heavy Load Member

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    All of our 4 axle trucks run twisty knob regulator valves. And if we ever run California we just don't even use it.

    Our older trucks even with the regulator, the guys in the shop had to shim them up quite a bit to get enough pressure to take the weight. These are the trucks where The Pusher axle raises a good three to four inches from the ground.

    The newer trucks use a different air bag that extents farther. And we have found that we need to run more pressure in these to take the weight and not cause tire hop during hard braking. The tire hop is probably also caused by the fact that we run drum brakes on the pushers and disc on the others. My current truck has this system and I run 20 lb over what I have in my drives.
     
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  3. kylefitzy

    kylefitzy Road Train Member

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    I will suggest they shim the bags some when I get back, I doubt they will though. This truck has been in service for 8 years and 160k miles. I did run the regulator (the none existent one) down as tight as it would go and could only get around 80 psi on the pusher and 55 on the drives.

    Something possibly contributing to this issue is only carrying 11k on my 20k front end due to 5th wheel position. More weight would lower the front of the frame which should put more weight on the front end. I didn’t load this load and permits were pulled for this fifth wheel placement so I just went with it.

    hopefully they can find something nice and heavy for a backhaul, if so I’ll try for a better weight distribution.

    Thanks for all the ideas and help.
     
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  4. bumper Jack

    bumper Jack Heavy Load Member

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    With the short neck and slid back fifth wheel as well as the 60” spread I’m kinda surprised you had 11k on the steer.
     
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  5. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    Shimming the bags may not fix the problem.
    Your problem is likely the difference is suspension geometry and/or bag size from you drive axles and you pusher. Only easy way to fix that is to have more pressure on your pusher axle bags.
     
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