Questions, questions, and even more questions

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Goothva, Sep 18, 2016.

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  1. Waggledaddy

    Waggledaddy Medium Load Member

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    Simple
    500 a day x 7 days = 2500
    Figure 1300 a week for your truck tags insurance and so on
    1200 left
    Fuel price let's guess average of 2.50
    Flat land average 9mpg
    So 475 miles ÷ 9mpg = 52.7 gallons used
    52.7 gallons used x 2.50 = 131.75 fuel a day
    131.75 x 7 days a week = 922.25 a week in fuel
    1200 left over from profit - 922.25 fuel = 277.75 actual profit.

    Congratulations owner of your own business. You made less than minimum wage!!!

    This took me 5 min to figure out. I'm a company Driver. I stand by my first initial post. Don't do it.
     
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  3. Waggledaddy

    Waggledaddy Medium Load Member

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    277.75 was your weekly profit. Not day.
     
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    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    That Western Star has some issues, the dumb one being the headlight capsule having that raised outer separation.

    The new 2017 Cascadia looks similar, but without the debris catcher, just saying.
     
  5. loudtom

    loudtom Road Train Member

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    500x7=3500 right?
     
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  6. MidWest_MacDaddy

    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    Safety Bonus??? ;-)
     
  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Truckers are some of the hardest and best America has to offer. Note, I said SOME Truckers. If you want answers, you are going to get them. I was a O/O for all of a week, not even that. And learned in that two month run up to purchasing what I was about to get into. Such as where do I get my 340 gallons of fuel, who has the 8 tires before winter? Truck payment in 3 weeks and change... and so forth. My first night I laid in bed wondering what I got myself into once I started to learn the freighting and rates in my area. The following day I was visiting companies with the tractor to get going once they organized the contracting etc.

    My position is not to get into the O/O with authority or some other workaround until you are absolutely certain that is what you about to stick your head into that hot oven for the next few years it will take you to get free again from truck payments and so on.

    Hurst speaks plain, and he speaks a truth. A gospel if you would. I see nothing condescending. In fact if someone is a sensitive soul unable to deal with a few hard hitting information then they should not be in trucking.

    I myself was a very happy company man. Let the poor office sob worry about the details. Let's go here or there. All I ask is that poor sob has the shop check book out when it's time to fuel oil or fix said truck.
     
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  8. Goothva

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    I understand there are harsh truths, and no I don't want to hear anything sugar-coated BUT I did also mention that trying to get financed through a bank was an option:

    With that being said, you could have left out that aspect and offered advice on a more personable level. The harsh reality of life is that you might not wake up tomorrow, you might have a stroke reading this and die right now. Do you live life with the expectation you won't make it home? I doubt it.

    I have my life in check as much as I can, and I have my finances in check as much as I can. I could give you details about my life, but I won't because my life is MY LIFE and has no impact of you or yours. I could spin a sob story about my life, but I won't. If you are willing to take a step back and realize you came across like a douche, then I'll listen your input. If you continue to talk down to me Hurst, I will tip my hat and ignore you.

    I have been thinking about it since 2011, so it's not "all of a sudden".

    And you, sir, are a buffoon. Insulting the intelligence of another without just cause only shows that you make yourself out to be a fool.

    Yes

    I will not accept that rate. That load used to pay $1,350 when I was a company driver - but the customer wanted it for cheaper. We lost those loads because we were under-bid.

    The goal is to work for myself, and not have my job threatened because I refused to drive tired. So yes to the next question, and yes to finding my own loads - not through load boards, brokers, or agents. When I called about the above mentioned load, I spoke directly to the customer.

    My schedule doesn't exactly permit me to go to truck stops, and knock on trucks to see who is an O/O and who isn't, so I am left with hopping on the CB when I am in a truck, and asking on the forums.

    Hence why I asked about them. Didn't say I was going to sign on with them; did I?

    I was merely pointing out that what was said to me was false. This falls under "research". Who jumps into a body of water without checking the depth first?

    I am a firm believer in "an eye for an eye" - it's been with me for a long time. If I am nice to you, and you get in my face, be prepared for me to get back in yours. I will not just walk away after someone gets in my face - i will get right back in yours. If you can't handle that, then boo hoo. It's called standing up for yourself.

    Yes, because I am only going to take $500 loads, for 5 days a week. Seriously? *shakes head*

    That's what I am doing. I have no intentions of taking out a loan or signing a lease and jumping into a truck tomorrow. At the earliest, that would happen around the first of the year, More than likely, it won't be until late next year.

    No, it's that I am tired of people being ######## and I refuse to "turn the other cheek". As I said above, if someone gets in my face, they better be prepared for me to get back in theirs.

    I have enough experience to recognize a bully when I see one, that thus far, that is what I am seeing. A lot of people with their own insecurity issues that they won't even admit to themselves. Bullies put other people down to make themselves feel better. If what I said offends those of you out there, then take a page from your own book:

    It's a harsh reality - deal with it.
     
  9. MidWest_MacDaddy

    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    LOL ... Are we reading the same thread???
     
  10. gokiddogo

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    The whole refuse to drive tired thing is a farce. They threatened to fire you because the customer threatened to fire your company for a late delivery because one of their drivers could not work effectively within their hours and when it's time to rest get adequate rest. What would you say to your secretary if she was always showing up at 11am rather than 9 because she "needed a little more sleep"? I know it isn't comparable to driving a large truck but the same concept applies. If you think it will be any different when you deal direct with the customer then think again. Unless you want customers who have loads that none of which have any time sensitivity to them. Those almost always pay peanuts.
     
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  11. KriegHund

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    I just don't get why you even started the thread, seems you know it all already. Sometimes the high horse you come riding in on is nothing more than a donkey.
     
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