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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by jaiart, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. jaiart

    jaiart Light Load Member

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    I have an interesting situation and and I need advice on several issues.

    1) I started as a 1099 driver with a small company today.
    2) I am scheduled for Swift orientation in a couple weeks.
    3) I'm looking down the road for my next company to move to in 3 to 6 months.

    I like the small company but they are based in one region and I am relocating soon, in a month or 2. That's why I took the offer from Swift.
    So the question is how do I resign from the current position when it's time to go? Should I just say I am relocating and am going with another carrier or just quit since it is a 1099 and right to work situation? Also the swift deal offers insurance. where as this gig doesn't.

    If I do quit, as I am a 1099 contractor. So long as I don't abandon the vehicle they can't really impede my plans via DAC can they? How is DAC situation different for 1099's versus company drivers?


    I see a lot of negative about a lot of companies here, I am looking for the next logical step and need some advice as to companies to try 3,6,even 12 months down the road. I though DART, Con-Way Freight, or some linehaul, ltl gig but they all seem to have very negative comments on these boards. Any advice?
     
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  3. Ghost Ryder

    Ghost Ryder Road Train Member

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    1) Make sure you set aside some funds for the IRS. If not, you will get burned on your taxes next year.
    2) Stay away from the bottom feeders if possible. You already have a job, so why leave?
    3) Same as #2. Unless this job royally sucks, stay at it and DO NOT job hop.

    Think about what you're doing to your career when you job hop. If you walk into HR at a LTL carrier and have 3 jobs within the last 6 months, your resume won't be as appealing regardless of what is on your DAC. Why would someone hire you if you're just gonna jump ship later down the road?
     
  4. critters

    critters <b>Late For Dinner</b>

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    If your gunna current job because of relocating, I would give them a notice,cant really hurt your moving anyway, and DAC reports can be fought. but Ghost is right about job hopping dont make a practice of it,it will haunt you.
     
  5. sixthgear11

    sixthgear11 Light Load Member

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    Is your 1099 job a local gig??? If its OTR, I don't get it, why quit if you like it... Its a truck, not a warehouse, you can take the job with you no matter where you move.
     
  6. ralph

    ralph Road Train Member

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    Isn't DAC/Hireright for employers and employees only? You're NOT an employee, hence the reason you're paid on a 1099. You're a contractor.
     
  7. pokerhound67

    pokerhound67 Heavy Load Member

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    the sad fact is yes they CAN damage your reputation on your dac if they want to, and its not easy to repair in some cases.

    if you are going to quit, imo you should do it as professionally as possible. this would include a 2 week notice when possible. unfortunately, in this industry, quitting is a bit of an ordeal, because you have to bring the truck somewhere, and clean it out. if you are 1000 miles away from home, its a big fat pita. if they dont route you to the place to drop the truck at the appropriate time, ditto.

    heres what i would do. tell them im done in two weeks, and tell them why. NICELY. i would do all of this by qualcom messaging, if you have it, email if not. you can ALSO do it by phone, but having it in writing is imperative. having their responses is also necessary. take a picture of each qualcom message regarding your ending your employ with your camera phone. you need to have a copy of all this so that if they give you a hard time, you have evidence to support your story. hopefully this will all just be paranoid nonsense that you will never need, but there are several cases posted in here about people who wish they had done these things. company versus 1099 means nothing.

    assuming youve given 2 week notice, remind them at 1 week, and again at 3 or 4 days, that they have to start thinking about routing you to the place they want you to bring their truck to turn it in. also in writing, also recording both your message and any response. over the phone is fine as a first measure, so you can explain the situation in detail, but then outline your plans in writing...always.

    if it happens that they dont route you to an appropriate place at the appropriate time, be a LITTLE flexible. maybe a weeks worth of patience. at 4 days beyond my requested quit date, id tell them my next load must get me to the agreed upon "turn in" place. if i got any guff about that, id be calling higher-ups in the company, going over the head of whoever was giving me problems.

    any company, large or small, can be the one who screws you as far as getting you to an agreed upon place for quitting. the more professional you are every step of the way, the less likely it is they will give you hassles. dont give them a reason to be upset at your leaving. "its not you, its me" may be hard to hear, but theres a reason that its said so often. true or not, it allows the person (or company) getting dumped a little "face saving". its certainly easier to hear "im quitting because im moving, or cant handle the stress, or because IM (blank)" than "im quitting because you suck". because you did this. because YOU (blank).

    oh, just a couple days ago read about someone who was arrested for theft of their truck. called to give notice and company supposedly told him not to drive anywhere, to get out of the truck right then and there. he said no, according to his story, and drove to the drop yard. enroute to said yard, the police stopped him and arrested him for theft of the vehicle. DO NOT drive the truck anywhere other than where they tell you to go. truck abandonment is a horrible thing to have on your record. truck theft is far worse. if they tell you to drive to x, and you take it upon yourself to drive to y, then you are in huge trouble if they decide to pursue it.

    good luck to you. most examples of quitting go smoothly...without incident. dont freak out about the worst case scenarios. but protect yourself against them as much as possible by documenting everything in writing. oh, and btw, jmo....swift is among the worst companies possible to work for...i wouldnt go there. but many would argue against this opinion. my point is youve seen bad things written about other companies you are considering? EVERY company has bad things written about it. well...maybe not the company you are currently with. small company, few employees, has less chance of having someone not like them than a company that employs thousands. in the following months, decide where you might like to go. talk to CURRENT drivers. go to a terminal, or look for them in the truck stop, but talk to them in person. read the forums, but read 100 reviews minimum. whats the percentage of good reviews to bad reviews? are the bad reviews "they screwed ME" or "this is how they screw everyone"?

    heres a good example. look for reviews on cr england. read 100 of them. if you find 5 good ones out of 100, ill be amazed. if 95% of the people that take the time to say something about them say they are bad, this should at least give you pause.

    in the case of swift, i place them on my "dont ever work for them" list (3 companies on list..crst and cr england are the other 2) because they imo are thieves. google class action lawsuits and read about their school that got raided by the fbi and dot because of their inadequate training. how 9k drivers trained by them got their licenses suspended, and had to sue them to recoup tuition money. how swift still sent demand letters for tuition owed by these drivers. these are the actions of crooks. now look at the class action lawsuit about unpaid miles. if they still pay hhg miles, this is also theft. they underpay you for miles by over 10% when calculating by hhg miles. they are certainly not the only company that does it, but it is wrong, period. if these things dont sway you, then i wish you good luck and hope your experience with swift makes you think im a nut.
     
  8. jaiart

    jaiart Light Load Member

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    i appreciate the advice but I stayed with a company for 15 years and only good was I was shown the door. So I will move as the opportunity fits me best. I used to be a grin and bear it guy but that is old world thinking and it took this major life altering change for me to see it. My brother told me job hop years ago since that was what he did. As long as I leave in a proper fashion and don't burnt bridges it should be okay and if it isn't I will deal with it then.
     
  9. jaiart

    jaiart Light Load Member

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    no, the region they operate in is very removed from my soon to be home region. I will try to see if it can be done but I wouldn't get much home time.

    I don't think their route even goes to my new home area.
     
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  10. jaiart

    jaiart Light Load Member

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    I can still back out of the job as I should be local until the appropriate time to begin with swift. If I can do their thing and live in new home fine but all in all I will go with new home over job here if I have to. In fact I will ask some more questions at the end of this week.
     
  11. Ghost Ryder

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    In this industry, job hopping is not OK. Case in point: You have 2 drivers both with 10 years of experience. One driver has had one job and got laid off while the other has had 20+ jobs. Who would you hire? The driver who got laid off or the driver who can't hold a job for more than 6 months? DAC doesn't matter much to employers as not all of them use DAC. What matters is stability. Even if you give a company proper notice, it still makes you look bad.
     
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