Quick question re: Box Truck and logs

I just started with a company that runs produce from Houston to Fort Worth two times a week in a 26ft box truck.

The truck is plain white with no company name or anything on it. I asked if I would have to stop at the weigh station outside Willis, TX and they said no, which doesn’t sound right to me.

I asked if they used ELD’s or paper logs and they said no. I feel like I should keep a paper log book anyway.

My question, I’ve read that with newer trucks, you couldn’t use paper logs and *HAD* to use ELD’s, is this true?

If so, are there any apps that I could use on my iPhone? Preferably ones that aren’t overly expensive?

Thanks!

 

If the truck has farm tags and is under 26,001 lbs gvw no logs are required.

 

It doesn’t have farm plates, but that’s good to know about the 26k lbs. I believe the empty weight is 13k lbs and the load is always about 1,000lbs (organic lettuce.)

Does that apply to weigh stations as well?

 

GVWR under 26,001# is non CDL.

Since it is over 10,000# you need a medical certificate.

GVWR = gross vehicle weight rating and tat's the number they go by

 

You still have to stop at weigh stations even with farm tags. I am thinking they are using the agricultural exemption which can still be used even without farm tags.

You get a 150 mile radius from the source of the agricultural product that is exempt from HOS and then once you enter 150 mile radius of the destination of the product you are again exempt from HOS.

So if you are traveling less than 300 miles to reach the destination then you would not have to log anything.

They would still have to display a DOT # and the product has to be in an unaltered state from harvest.

 

You need to know what the signs just before the TX weigh station say. In some states the signs say "All Trucks enter weigh station". In other states the signs read "All commercial vehicles/trucks enter weigh station." In some states trucks above some low weight limit are required to stop "All trucks over 8,000 pounds enter weigh station." This is a question for Texas law, not opinion.

 

Doesn’t matter about the actual weight of the truck

what matters is the data plate in the door showing what the maximum
Gross weight truck was designed to be

a lot of manufacturers de rate the GVWR of the truck to be under 26,000 lbs using small tires etc

 

I don't think it works like that, it's 150 miles from your originating point. You can't add another 150 miles from you delivery point. It's 150 miles total, not 300.

 

Livestock gets 150 mile radius from delivery, but nothing else does.

 

So you can go a total of 300 miles from home base on farm tags and no logs with livestock?