Rand mcnally tnd 700 or corbra 7700 pro gps???

Discussion in 'Trucking Electronics, Gadgets and Software Forum' started by cambo, May 20, 2010.

  1. morbius

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    Yes, I own many navigation units, boxes full of them (from cheap to several thousand dollars, from hand held to laptop based). I also happen to be a electronic engineer and software developer ..... Driving was something that help pay for my needs when young and 25 years later, still do it for fun.

    Yes forum emphasis negatives post the most, however a smart person does rely on a forum alone and does a internet search and see what other places and people have to say. Dieselboss is the not the only source for information. Others have information and comparisons. Also Dieselboss is the not the best price around, a proper search can have a unit much cheaper. Since you most likely either work for or represent Dieselboss, I can see why you push that.

    Yes I have been to the websites of each of the manufacture of the nav units. As normal, they all boost great features and how they are the best. They boost how many years of experience they have with nav units and mapping. Some have link to support that contains tons of information to better help your decision, other contain nothing but a number that most likely leads to a overseas support desk that has no clues about USA/CANADIAN road requirements.

    Bottom line, all that counts is what your fellow colleagues has to say. Reputation and word of mouth recommendation is still the number one source for a product and/or service.

    I ran into this site as I was doing my homework on yet a another truck nav unit and this site alone has lots pros and cons on the 4 that I am comparing (one them looks like it went out business already). In further researching other sites, I find the negatives and problems actual drivers are experiencing are FAR greater than the positives found so far. All 4 that I am looking have one common problem, they can not route a truck from point A to Z without a screwing up and costing you money.

    So bottom line, one purchases a nav unit specifically setup for trucking. The bloody thing should do that one function to the best of class. If can not, its a poor unit, no if's and's or's about it. When a truck nav sends you miles past or out of the shorter safest route possible, who is stuck holding the bag ?? The driver, not the manufacturer. When a truck nav sends you to a location that is designed for cars only and now you are stuck and have call local law enforcement for assistance, who is stuck holding the bag, the driver !! When the manufacture of the nav unit put a fine paid/points removed guarantee behind their product, I will purchase it site unseen and praise it to no end when my fines are all paid for and points gone. Till then, my colleagues testimonies is Gospel.

    Rolling on ......
     
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  3. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    DieselBoss has a good review. He takes weeks to test and then writes up his review. I do not work for DieselBoss, nor am I in any way related to his business. If you know of another site that does reviews then by all means let me know. I have yet to find others yet. I assist any dealer in training, support and if they have questions.

    The navigation is a tool. I have seen signs posted that were out of date. Yet if you obey those signs you could run into trouble. A driver has to use all the tools in his bag of tricks. How many times have you called a shipper\consignee and they give you a route... but that route is fine for a car.

    Rand is trying and trying hard to correct a lot of incorrect data. They receive thousands of Tell Rands and they act on each one.

    If you buy a car does it come with a guarantee that if you get a speeding ticket they will pay for it?

    Their are millions of miles of roads and to get a navigation device to act on each one would take a lot of computing power. The router for routing is tweaked and tweaked, but if you over tweak one area, you under tweak another.

    The choice is yours to buy a navigation device. Drivers have been making appointments for many years with just an MCRA alone. The Truck navigation device helps in streamlining some of the trip planning and in route decsions.

    But, again it is not perfect and will never be. Computers have been around since the 60's and yet none are perfect, yet we rely on them to make decsions for us.

    You go to a Doctor and usually will do what they ask without question. You put your life in their hands. How well do they know their job? Do you do research on your Doctor to see what their rating is?

    Thanks,
    Mark
     
  4. morbius

    morbius Bobtail Member

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    Stick to the facts and thread. Nothing to about computers, cars, doctors, etc. ... Your fishing.

    Bottom line, these vendors market truck nav, it makes mistakes and has problems. You have to pick out which is the least of the evils. Why, I know for a fact all the data is readily available and can correlated rather easy. Whats the problem ?

    People have a higher tolerance for nav units for cars, they are rather simple to turn around (for a decent driver). Tolerances for trucks is much less, its more difficult to turn a 65+ ft. long truck weighting over 70,000 lbs, you have waste lots of time doing so. That lost time costs money.

    Sounds like to me you do not drive a large truck and have no clue in what we have to go through. Maybe Rand needs to get beta testers that long haul driver that has to pull into dense cities.

    Well best of luck beta testing, I am moving on.
     
  5. Mark Kling

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    I drove OTR and Canada for 3 years, 5-6 weeks out, 3-4 days home.. off the road last year... Freightliner, Volvo, Long nose Pete's, 4k to 45k in the box... yes I do have some insight as to what a driver goes through.. and yes I had to do those tight turn-arounds.

    All the Beta testers run either regional, long haul, tankers, O\S, O\W, refers, dry, cars, expidite, Long nose Pete's, day cabs (OTR) - he hates camping, old trucks, new trucks, etc,,, in other words Rand does not have one Beta tester that does not have a CDL A license.

    Thanks,
    Mark
     
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  6. NFG

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    A doctors business is called a practice...
     
  7. Dieselboss

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    Couldn't agree with you more. There are many sources of nuggets of truck navigation info to be found here and there. I haven't actually found any one place that put as vast of a comparison of them as we have, but if you can recommend one, please do.

    We're not a fire-and-forget business. We have a phone number, with a person, in America, on the other end of it. We run stuff out to drivers refueling at 10:00pm at a nearby truck stop when they are on a tight-schedule. We support every product on our site for free, forEVER. If you search, can you sometimes find a particular product cheaper somewhere? Sure, sometimes. Am I trying to compete with someone on Amazon or Ebay sitting at home in their fuzzy bunny-slippers? Nope. We are for those who want support and help before and after the sale, not for those looking for the lowest possible price and then they're on their own.


    :biggrin_25523:That's awesome. Here's the scoop: Dieselboss is a 5-person operation founded in 1999 by an OTR driver (reefer loads for May Trucking and then Martin Trucking for those playing "trucker's report trivia" at home) in order to get the ol' man out of that Freight-shaker. He is 67 years old after all, so we built a business to test, market, and advise other drivers on products or services that helped him out there on the road.

    The ONLY connection that Mark and I share is that he happens to work for a company that makes truck navigation units. We have never even met in person. If Betty Crocker comes out with a product that claims to help drivers tomorrow, then me and the ol' gal will soon be talking too.


    Again, couldn't agree more. Word of mouth testimony carries far more weight than any glossy billboard or advertisement ever will. And it's a good thing too. Or I'd actually have to spend some real money on glossy billboards or something.

    And in terms of the internet, THIS PLACE pretty much DEFINES "word-of-mouth" when it comes to all things trucking, so I'm glad you found it in your research.

    :Road:And now back to your regularly-scheduled thread on who likes the Rand or the Cobra best...
     
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  8. HAULIN357

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    yup did the same thing to me had to back the _____ up before going over the little bridge!!
     
  9. mikley28

    mikley28 Road Train Member

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    so you know what bridge im talking about? I just went over it. I was empty though so it wasnt as bad.
     
  10. HAULIN357

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    ya i was really impressed with that and the fact that it likes to exit before you actuuly get to your pick or drop and puts you on the #### streets!!!
     
  11. mikley28

    mikley28 Road Train Member

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    a few times it routed me off the highway then right back on at the same exit/entrance :biggrin_2559:

    Keeps wanting to take me into canada when im in Champlain, NY or somewhere far north.

    Addresses are sometimes a mile off.

    im very happy with my TND. havent had any issues yet.
     
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